From Batman & Parasite to Getting Scouted on LinkedIn| Ep. 29

MAX: 00:13
Welcome back to Two Unemployed Actors. I'm Max. I'm Sam. And Fred is in between us. So if occasionally hear a growl uh or a screen, if Sam screens, Fred's bit him again. So uh look at look at YouTube. You'll also see the evolution of one of our key props that we use at the moment for a backdrop. It's the Star Wars Millennium Falcon, sponsored by no one other than a great voice of job. And uh it's made out of Lego and gradually it's been progressing over the last three episodes. So um for those of you sharp-eyed enough to see that in the background, it's it's amazing what you can achieve for a um tax write-off, uh for a uh prop tax for a podcast. Um it has been a busy week. Like it has been full on it, and I mean full-on arts immersion for me.

SAM: 01:03
That's great.

MAX: 01:04
Apart from practicing this play, I've been walking around in circles because they're trying to cast for one person who dropped out, unfortunately, due to personal reasons. Uh so there's no point in getting us all together when you know one of the five of us isn't actually there. I'm walking around in circles still with the lipstick, yeah, which is on in May. So still walking around in circles with the script in hand. And because it's one of those ones where the character enters and exits a lot. So it's not like it's a conversation that flows over or or or a relationship that flows over a period of scenes, and in your mind you can sort of you know follow it quite logically. It's literally in from the cold every time you walk through the door and something else happens. Okay, throw in a lot of physicality. So I feel like I'm gonna be script in hand for a while, writing blocking notes and all sorts of stuff as you do. But uh, when we do start rehearsing. Uh, for those of you in Sydney, lipstick, it's on 14th to 17th of May. Come see it. So look at me. This is what we do. We plug, we plug each other and uh at the Chippen Street Theatre, Chippin Street Theatre. Yeah, I just moved on from that. I didn't even stop. I like stuff. I realised halfway through, but but I was committed to so like I had to see the sentence through.

SAM: 02:07
I like stopping and making fun of it. Oh god.

MAX: 02:10
Uh moving on very quickly. Yes. So there was that. I'm in the mockumentary films tomorrow. Uh so a few ideas of uh of that. So and voiceovers, left, right, and centre all of a sudden, including directed sessions with a studio in London. It's fun to be awake in the middle of the night. Uh, but look, I can't complain, it's work. Also, from the more fun acting side, I went to the opening night of Hamlet. Fred, just keep it down, mate. I'm trying this is the big moment. I went to the opening night of Hamlet at Belle Shakespeare at the Opera House. Shapespe. Sydney Opera. No, this is Shakespeare. This is Shakespeare. True Shakespeare. Uh, and um, it was amazing. Like, this is one of the most amazing productions of Shakespeare I have witnessed. I've seen Kevin Spacey and King Richard, I've seen lots of greats um with their take on Shakespeare. And and this is a play that I haven't seen before either, I might say. I haven't because I had to live with the text during high school while we analyzed it left, right, and centre. It was probably the last story I wanted to revisit. But anyway, sure. So, with that baggage in mind, it was it was just amazing. Like, seriously, you walk out and even at Intermission, we couldn't stop talking about it. It was just like there's nothing you could fault. The performances are amazing. Hamlet, played by a female lead, Harriet Gordon Anderson, who I've seen before in The Miser. Um, again, Belle Shakespeare. Amazing, amazing. I had a chance to talk to her afterwards. I think it came out with something like green. Oh, well, you know, you know, it comes to the pre-show party and after show party. It was basically six hours of of of arts and and and I didn't think because I'm amazing, because I'm amazing. Okay, got it. Great seats too, third row at the playhouse, which means you're elevated, you're like looking at them in the eye on stage. It was ridiculous. And I had to resist the temptation to get up there and show them what I could do, but anyway, uh, I want to be invited back. So, how did you get tickets? I think I said uh through a friend. So it's like friend of a friend thing. Friend of a friend thing. Uh, if you make enough friends, one of them will help you every now and then. And if a couple of them help you, brilliant. Yeah. Right. That's what this industry is all about. Anyway, anyway, I just can't stop talking about this play. It was amazing. I think I said something like, I'm an actor two. Hi, my name's Max. You were inspirational. Um, you should be really proud. It sort of came out in different orders and it was kind of, you know, what I'm an actor two, usually inspirational, and you were great. My name's Max. Um anyway, she sees she was really nice. Such such a great act, like a huge presence on stage, and you just can't take your eyes off. It was it was absolutely amazing. I spoke to the art director as well of Bell Shakespeare, who's also uh directed the play, and it was fantastic. John Bell was there who started Bell Shakespeare 30 years ago this year, actually. I just I've been telling everyone go and get tickets. It's until I think April the 4th, okay, uh, here in Sydney, and it is well worth it. Absolutely. Like they borrow and steal.

SAM: 04:57
What is it contemporary style? Like how why is it so why is it so good?

MAX: 05:01
It was set in the 60s and the fashion of the 60s and everything. So it's kind of an interesting time to have stories about exactly, exactly, particularly female empowerment and all these other sort of underlying stories and and issues and things that they chose to to focus on. Because as we know, Hamlet is massive, and you don't do a whole four hours of it, you sort of pick and choose. But it it was a great contemporary take. Um, minimal set. So it was clearly it was clearly 60s, but it wasn't over the top. Yeah, distracted. Yeah, you didn't walk in and go, Oh wow, look at this set. It really complemented the piece perfectly, perfectly. It changed a few times subtly. Peter oh god. Jackson. Oh god, I just forgot his name.

SAM: 05:42
This has to go in the end. No, no, no.

MAX: 05:44
I talked to him for like 10 minutes afterwards and I was saying how amazing it is.

SAM: 05:47
I just I for Peter Evans, who is Oh my god, I thought it was gonna be a full-on like Evans.

MAX: 05:54
Evans, yeah, that's really hard to remember. Um I was sober by the show start. I was so uh anyway, so amazing. It was like it was just so it was perfect. So and also there was a little bit of film projected onto certain pa certain places in between in between scenes, and it again it wasn't I was a bit worried when I because it's sort of you saw it at the start, and I'm like, oh god, no, because I've seen one production like that where it was distracting, and by the end of it, they'd they pared it down by the time I got to the you know the 20th show to to rather complement it, but it was great, it really was at at dialing up more information emotionally about the relationship with certain characters while you know you're going from one scene to another, yeah, and then slowly the music would come up and then die off as they walk on, and you know, so it just everything complemented each other perfectly. It was just it was just amazing. It was amazing. Did I say it was amazing? No, it was amazing. Like seriously, this is one of the best productions I've seen at the Opera House for a long time. I really oh it's hands down. Okay. So it's up there with Grapes of Wrath that I saw at the new theatre um last year. So this so far this year, Hamlet is my absolute favourite. Okay, good to know. Thursday night, Thursday night, if you've still got money in the bank and want to see something amazing, the Invisible Man. Oh my god. Oh, you saw it. Oh, it was great. Because I I I I remember saying how much I wanted to avoid avoid all the previews and avoid all the reviews and news and everything, because I really want to enjoy it. Yeah, apart from the fact that it's filmed here in Sydney and Anthony Brandon Wong, isn't it? Um, look, I I think it was it was amazing, it was more because when Lee Winnell, you hear Lee Winnell and you think, okay, he's he started sore. Great Aussie started that franchise. Yeah. Yeah, blood and gore, right? And I'm thinking Invisible Man, it's a scare flip, it's gonna be blood and gore. But it's it leans more towards Hitchcock in the suspense. It's more of a psychological thriller than an in your face, let's spell everything out for you. Horror, yeah. It's it really is uh and and I mean even with a conservative actor AFI crowd, yeah, which are normally you know very conservative, there were screams. So you went to the pre parent. Yeah, uh in city. Well, it's a QA with the producer and the art director as well afterwards through Actor. Thank you, Actor AFI. And so do you just go, you just go and they they they every now and then they send you updates in their let newsletters and say, look, here's what's on. There's a QA. And there's a QA with blah blah blah, come meet the director, come have a chat, whatever. And then and maybe if it's a you know, there's a pre-show party as well, sort of thing. Yeah, come on. The next one's meeting Michael Robotham Rob Robotham, the author, because one of his latest works has been adapted into a into a teleseries. So we get to see the first episode, have a little party and a chat. Um TBC in the future. But in the visible man, oh my god, amazing! So it really hit all the points when it comes to a psychological thriller, that build-up of suspense. Oh, yeah, particularly because it you know, there's a nice, suddenly still wide shot and the characters barely moving, but you see something move and you go, Oh my god, is he there? And and you're forever playing with your own mind. Did you see something move with the imagination?

SAM: 08:56
Is it supernatural?

MAX: 08:57
Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, it's based on an HG Wells novel from 1800s where where you know someone drinks a potion and turns invisible, and what happens from that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a movie in 1934, and it was a television series, which I remember seeing reruns of. No, I'm not that old, but reruns of the black and white television series. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And um, and you know, and being scared as a little kid. It was a great way, also, I'm not going to spoil it, but it's a great way of of of making a more contemporary story on how that happens. Yeah, very cool. And how that change happens to invisible. Yeah, okay. And and that happens really quickly, and it's alluded to in certain scenes, and then boom, you're there. Because you don't have to have that whole story of how. Let's just get straight to the the scare factor because it's driven by a big personality, you know. Yeah, it's it's it's it's like we're in a st in a state, you know, there's me too power, uh, female empowerment, um, domestic violence is a big issue here in Australia. There's been some major incidents that are really dark and stormy, and I think it just happens to be like, I mean, it happens all the time when you think about it. And this was a question in the QA, you know, what was the release time? Did anyway like no, no, it's just that there's always unfortunately incidences. Um, and here's a a woman who has a partner that's not very nice and just happens to end up invisible, invisible, which would, you know, having a partner that's not very nice is kind of creep in itself, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But adding another layer of suspense to it is amazing. So so Lee Winell, first time directing too. Okay, and I'm like, I came in, I'm like, I want it to be so good, and it was, so it it's great. I recommend seeing it in the cinema so you can scream along with others.

SAM: 10:28
I do want to see it, yeah.

MAX: 10:29
Scream along with others. Because people were screaming and then you hear the giggles, the polite little giggles afterward, the nervous giggles. Like, oh yeah, yeah. Was that me? Oh, oh, you know.

SAM: 10:36
Guess what? What I've seen Parasite. You have? Yeah. Oh, great. We're gonna have to keep hitting you about it. I know, I know. Because like, you know, just catching up to the rest of the world. We've been waiting, Sam. Welcome.

MAX: 10:46
We've all been waiting. Welcome to the rest of the world. Very good. You've enjoyed it? Did you see it all in one sitting, no break?

SAM: 10:51
Yeah, yeah, Jess and I watched it in bed.

MAX: 10:53
Okay, that's whatever floats you boat, you know, whatever gets you in the mood. If it's if it's a dark comedy that gets you going, like, you know, I'm not to judge. No, no, no.

SAM: 11:02
Um we we we were chilling in, chilling in bed, lights off. Let's not paint that scene. No, as in it was lights dark just the screen, it was great. Sorry, no, it's that you said the music yeah, it was very good. No, I'm just telling you. It was a good setting for it because it was like dark, dark and moody, and yeah. It was very, it was very well done. It was very well done. Very creepy. I know that it's such a creepy idea.

MAX: 11:30
And suddenly it just takes you, like, you get to know the family, and then suddenly it just takes you in this direction. Like, oh, okay. We're going down the basement.

SAM: 11:36
Spoilers, but like the down, yeah, the basement.

MAX: 11:38
Wow, just let's just add another layer to this complicated relationship between the two families.

SAM: 11:43
Yeah, and the old nanny. Like, why so but it's but it works together, doesn't it? And yeah, in the comparison of the like rich family and the poor family.

MAX: 11:51
And what a great insight into the rich family and the poor family. You know, none of them are bloody happy.

SAM: 11:55
And I loved how like when it rained heavily, yes, uh, the juxtaposition of like this affected this family so much, like it ruined their house. And then this one's like, it was great, it rained the other night. It's just it's it's awesome, isn't it? Those little touches throughout, it's fantastic. The idea is so clever, like to have a family like bring in each other and like get rid of the at the start, it's kind of like a uh it really is more the comedy than the black.

MAX: 12:16
It's like this is gonna be so much fun, you know. What what comedy could ensue when you've got a family taking them taking the piss out of the other family?

SAM: 12:21
Yeah, exactly.

MAX: 12:22
And then it just goes to the basement.

SAM: 12:24
I learned as well that um celebrate the fact you learned something ho has directed like a Hollywood film before. Snow Piercer, the one with um Chris Evans. He directed it. I didn't know.

MAX: 12:36
That was a while ago, yeah.

SAM: 12:37
Oh yeah. He directed that, and I had no idea. That was CGI heavy, wasn't it? Yeah, I mean it's about the society on a train. Yeah, that's right. Oh yeah. But like, if you think about it, it's kind of they're very similar styles, like almost like a weird sort of premise to get to know his interesting society. It's kind of like it's all about society, yes. Yeah, no, he directed that. I didn't know that he directed that. I thought he was he was fresh out of fresh out of Korea.

MAX: 13:01
Yeah, no, he's uh fresh out of Korea. But what a great result though, four Oscars. I know, that's a good one. He kept getting up and saying more drunk. Yeah, that's awesome. He's earned it, he's earned it. It's fantastic.

SAM: 13:12
And it's funny because like he had the translator, but like like he'd say some English things at the end, like I go drink now.

MAX: 13:18
Like he said it's like you can't blame him.

SAM: 13:20
You can't, yeah. It was amazing.

MAX: 13:23
It's really cool though. No, I really I really loved it. And it was great, it's it was it was fun. I mean, I I wanted to go and see it in the cinema. I think it's still showing, actually. It was the biggest foreign film in England. I think it racked up biggest foreign film ever in England at the cinema. Um, there's some cinemas in Sydney still showing it. There's one, I think it's a Dendi Newtown that's showing it in black and white. In black and black. Those who want to see it again. Oh, I don't know.

SAM: 13:44
And uh Oh, actually, Lighthouse, thinking of black and white. Have you heard of Lighthouse?

MAX: 13:48
Yes, yes, with uh Willem Defoe and Twilight. Robert Robert Pattinson. No, is he Twilight or is he Harry Potter?

SAM: 13:55
Both.

MAX: 13:56
Oh both, bruh. Has he been in both?

SAM: 13:58
He's been in both, bruh. Oh sorry.

MAX: 14:00
Sorry, that wasn't my childhood.

SAM: 14:01
I sort of he was I think his first role was Harry Potter, like big role was Cedric Diggory. Robert Pat Rob Robert Pattinson played Cedric Diggory, and then he also played The Vampire.

MAX: 14:13
Oh Werewolf. The werewolf, vampire. Oh Jesus.

SAM: 14:17
But all our Twilight lovers are gonna hate us because I've forgotten his lame his name. Cullen, Edward Cullen.

MAX: 14:22
Okay, thank you. At least one of us can connect with our audience.

SAM: 14:24
Yeah, so he played both and now he's playing Batman.

MAX: 14:27
Yeah, oh yes, and I've seen some stills. It's really he looks dark in character. Yeah, interesting. I mean, I don't know how many reiterations we can have of Batman and how many reiterations we can have of the Joker. It feels like we've done the comic book death. What happened to Robin? Robin. Chris O'Donnell was Robin once. I remember I met him on on uh they did a launch, listen to this for a story, Gold Coast. My brother says, Oh, the Batman movie's premiering tonight. I'm like, Really? Where? Oh, Movie World on the Gold Coast. I'm like, Oh, do you want to go? It's like, really? I said, Yeah, yeah. From here, yeah, Sydney. No, no, we were in Gold Coast. I'm like, well, let's just let's go. So we we got in the car, it was like eight o'clock at night or something to premiere. Red carpets rolled out and everything. So we got there at like seven, uh bought ourselves a couple of drinks. We were just chilling by the red carpet, and we just accidentally happened to be in one of the best spots. Like they go up onto the podium and they get a quick interview, the director's there, um, Chris O'Donnell, um, who else? Lots of the B list from Aussie and uh or this and the C list, you know, to fill the seats. Oh my god, oh I've just oh uh Pause. Go no pause while Max Googles his memory. Uh circular reference. Um he was in he was in he was chasing he was chasing that guy from Raiders of the Lost Ark. Harrison Ford. Harrison Ford, Indiana G. In in he was chasing Harrison Ford when he was the one armed man. No, I don't know.

SAM: 15:48
I haven't got it. I've lost it.

MAX: 15:49
Tom It was the bad guy from Under Siege that was amazing.

SAM: 15:53
Tim Tom Tom Selleck.

MAX: 15:56
Oh god, no, but that's way way. How'd you go from oh my god, you went from 90s back to early 80s? That's brilliant. I like I like Magnum PI. Why not? They've reinvented it, you know. How can you reinvent that? What? Tom Selleck mustache. Is he old? Yes, Craigly face. God, Tommy Lee Jones. Oh, you got it! That's what I did. Remember that one time I picked up my phone, I didn't even do it. So Tommy Lee Jones was there, and uh, he was really nice. I got his autograph, and Chris O'Donnell made this creepy face when he stole the camera and took a selfie of all of us. This is before selfies, this is like on film, okay? And uh yeah, I remember seeing some B list celeb oh okay, D-List celeb trip over uh and blame it on this poor guy who was just standing there to hold the rope, sort of thing. D-list and he's like, Oh, sorry, madam, sorry, madam. And she's like, I'm like, oh my god, you know, geez. Everyone's awkwardly standing there because they sort of staggered it, like, you know, everyone comes in. She must have seen an audience at the time.

SAM: 16:49
Talking about Batman and Red Carpets, two points. Yes. Batman. Yes. Back to one of the old points that we just said before as well. How can you like you remember? Yeah, yeah. How firstly, uh Ben Affleck. I don't know. Oh, Ben Affleck. Yes, yes. Because Batman wasn't that good.

MAX: 17:04
I thought it was it was okay.

SAM: 17:06
But I don't think anything can follow Christian Bale.

MAX: 17:08
You know, he wrote a script for the next Batman, and he was due to star in that. I wrote that actually. Went into rehab and the script sort of got gradually sidelined. Uh I think it was alcohol, is the problem. That's how I drunk. So yeah. But look, the film that's in cinemas at the moment is amazing that he's in. I've heard the great reviews. Oh, which one? One of my key reviewers gave it four and a half stars, so I really want to see that.

SAM: 17:31
Okay. But yeah, you can't price Tuesday. Christian Bale's Batman was freaking awesome.

MAX: 17:35
See, I'm I go back to picture this, okay, right? Yeah. Reruns I'm watching of the 50s, 60s, you know, or whatever it is, 70s, Batman in blue tights and Robin in yellow and red, you know, running around doing the television series. Okay. I go from that to, oh, there's a new Batman movie out. Well, you know, let's skip school and oh, sorry. Uh, and go and see it. So we did. It's Michael Keaton with this Tim Burton re imagination of the of the dark, and Jack Nicholson as the Joker, where he's full of prosthetics, all he could see is the eyes, but he's a great actor, like it was amazing. Yeah, and I I think he said something like, I'm why I want X amount and I want points as well. So one a percentage. Yeah. And he negotiated so hard because like Jack Nicholson, legend, yeah, yeah. Um, he made something like 60-80 mil because it happened to be this amazing blockbuster. I know that's in mid-90s, bunny. Amazing blockbuster um uh at the box office because it was just it was the first time we'd seen this dark imagining for those that haven't sort of delved into the comic book world. Yeah, um, that was the first taste of it. And then they've been sort of redoing that.

SAM: 18:38
I think it's just because I've grown up with the other with Christopher Nolan's ones. Yeah, okay. And I'm a fan of Christopher Nolan. I like that. I like Batman begins. Heavily biased. I'm I will accept that. Also, Greg Carpet thing. Got an email from my agent. Great, still alive. He is still alive.

MAX: 18:55
Still representing. Brilliant.

SAM: 18:57
Um, but he was saying he's like heard from international peeps. You're trying to make it cool. Yeah, and fair. Heard from international peeps. No, don't don't we uh Xnay on the peepee. Xnay on the international people have people, light casting agents and talent agents and all this stuff, uh are now looking for people like me. People like Max Belmonte, he said. Right. And I was like, oh, I don't know him. No, no, they were saying he was saying how they are now looking for more red carpet style photographs as headshots because it's now set-more glamour sort of headshots. Not even glamour, but in the moment on the red carpet at an event.

MAX: 19:42
Oh, I see what you're saying.

SAM: 19:44
So it separates the the wannabes from the going for moving forward people. Oh right. Well most people will still have headshots, so you still have a bit of time, but the point is that like he's saying like it's less cheesy than original headshots. They're looking for now, you're in an event, you've done something. And he's sent examples, which are just celebrities on red carpets, exactly what you picture. Fantastic. Um so that's actually really working at Sydney props. Oh I'm gonna set up a red carpet, do that, put up a rope and like fake it to make it so that they're gonna do that. That's brilliant. But also.

MAX: 20:12
They're gonna hire some paparazzi extras.

SAM: 20:14
That's gonna look a full deal. The problem, the hard part will be having a brand at the back or like the wall. Oh yeah.

MAX: 20:22
But but at the same time You just need to capture the rope and exactly, but not today.

SAM: 20:27
If I do not today, then not today um premiere. Yep. If there's something there, then do something there.

MAX: 20:33
Well, do you remember that? That's interesting because I've always put like on my IMDB, even there's some screenshots of me on camera from different characters. Yeah. Again, to add some sort of legitimacy as a step above just having a headshot. Yeah. To sort of say, Well, here's me in certain characters, taking a leaf of those people who are employed and up there on the star meter getting lots of work. So they've got it, it must work. So yeah. But uh, there's one event. Remember the after short film I was talking about last year? It was a 60-second film. Yes. And all done in one day. And I literally met the director that morning of. It's the one with the dollhouse where I play this American director who blah blah blah. I get a phone call. Oh, it's uh it's been accepted as a part of the International Night of Horror Film Festival. Oh, cool. Which just quite I didn't know existed, but hey. And they have a whole lot of uh short films on a particular night of the festival. Yeah. International Night of Horror. Uh there I was. Next thing you know, there's people there, I don't know what for, but interviewing and I'm trying to be on my best behavior. So I've got a picture of me being interviewed on the red carpet. Nice. To to add some more parameter events. And I'm and I'm on and I'm on so many. Like when I go to the actor events and stuff, the walls are always there.

SAM: 21:43
And you take photos? No, I should, shouldn't I? Do an hour. Yeah. Can you? Can the public? Yeah, yeah, that's why they have them. But why? Because you can the public. Yes.

MAX: 21:53
Well, I mean, no, I mean it's gotta be an actor member. So you've got to be working in the industry to be there in the first place. An AAO actor. No, no, no. Actor. The Association of Austral Uh uh Australian Cinema Television the Arts. You have to be a member part of it? Like I don't know if I am. Yes. So to become a member, you need to have accredited work in a particular category. For me, the category was television because I think it was Deadly Women, Home and Away, where I got two credits on IMDB, and I used those to get uh a part of that category, which allows me also to be voting rights when it comes to the actor awards.

SAM: 22:27
Okay.

MAX: 22:27
And then this year I was invited into the entertainment chapter, which allows you to do more waiting and your voting rights on the uh reality TV entertainment subcategory of the category, if you know what I mean. Which means I have to watch lots of TV. Um but look with with that membership though, I mean, do what you can to have a look at what the membership entails to apply and and get on it because um and yes, there's a commitment financially each year, but it's it's nominal considering the benefits. I mean, first of all, you get an invitation to an industry event. So again, that separates it from your average pay-to-play. And look, a lot of the stuff that I go to is just I'm on the mail list and I go. I've seen, you know, Kate Planchette in a QA. Yeah, do you go with MDV credits? Is it um I believe so? Um it's been a while since I've looked at it. I can't remember. Okay. Um, but they need to verify that you're uh applicable for a category. So each application is reviewed. And but that what that allows you to do though is to go to these um industry events and it could, and the I know the like the cinema that's now uh their cinema, their sponsor cinema is Randwick Ritz, which is again around the corner. So um you go to these events and there's sometimes a QA. It could be um, you know, they show three episodes of a television series, and then there's a QA afterwards for Upright. Tim Minchin was there along with the producer and director, um, talking about how they brought that to life.

SAM: 23:48
Yeah, very cool.

MAX: 23:49
Um, and then you see a couple of episodes, and then there was more of a QA, and then you know, Foxtill threw on wine and cheese afterwards. Um, so and that's you know another reason why I've got old school business cards for my voiceover and acting and the podcast because so much is done face to face in networking in the industry. Yeah. Um, but you've also got something for them to take away.

SAM: 24:09
So definitely when you go to the next one, get some red cover shots because he was very he was very specific about that.

MAX: 24:14
Okay, that's interesting. I'm learning a lot from your agent.

SAM: 24:16
I know. Well, yeah, I don't know. Like I I have a feeling as well, like obviously. Between us, we're it's true, but why aren't other agents telling everyone? And why is he the only one?

MAX: 24:27
Well, even he veri I verified his. Remember the oh, you don't need uh US visa? Yeah, yeah. Because he said you need a US visa. Four weeks later, oh my agent says we need a US visa. So oh bugger, because I asked about it.

SAM: 24:37
Maybe your agent's gonna tell you in four weeks now.

MAX: 24:39
Oh, don't it could be. Uh, but anyway, um we that's the benefit of having contacts in the industry. We can find out these things and finger on the pulse, and what does it hurt to have another image or two that are red carpet? It does not.

SAM: 24:54
And you look at all the celebrities thing uh uh accounts on IMDb, you see them all on the red carpet.

MAX: 24:58
Exactly. Okay, that's interesting. Noted red carpet.

SAM: 25:03
That doesn't not say that, but it does.

MAX: 25:05
I can read my left-handed writing, and that's all that matters. Friday night, Friday night, beers were involved. I don't drink beer, but lots of wine. Uh it's called Shakespeare. Shake's wine. Shakes Wine. Shake Swine. Shake oh that no, no, that doesn't work, does it? Shake's wine. Shake Shakespeare with the beer is in the beer you drink. I'm a swap. Um it it we went to the Forester Hotel in Surrey Hills.

SAM: 25:33
They started And I realized I I was there for a musical theatre ball at the end of the year.

MAX: 25:38
Anyway, it's a huge hotel, many levels. We're up level three, I think, but uh it's actually where they started. Okay. So they know that space quite well because really it's like a a function room where it's you know, the tables are everywhere, even on the slight incline of a stage. Yeah. And they just perform amongst you. So because of the layout's kind of funky, that that's where it started. So they all they know all the entries and exits back the front and they really leverage that space to its capacity. Um, you know, performing seven of them, 27 characters, um, and just going through and and and look, it's so like in get up, it's informal, so you can get up and buy a drink and get some food or something in the middle of it all and they sort of perform around you.

SAM: 26:15
Okay.

MAX: 26:16
Uh, yes, they might single someone out and make fun of them and no, it wasn't meant to be.

SAM: 26:19
Where did you find this again?

MAX: 26:20
Uh, again, a friend recommended uh Shakespeare. They've got a program. I'll put a link to it. I'll put a link to it in um our Facebook page on Facebook, and I'll also put a link to their Facebook page because it's Bard Work, who's the organization. I've seen them sometimes looking for talent um casting. And they do outdoor events, other locations, other pubs as well, other hotels in Sydney. Yeah. And I think it's a great, just a great idea to make Shakespeare less intimidating and more accessible for more people who really want to have fun. It was a great Friday night. Everyone left, you know, at 10 o'clock laughing and in a great mood. So it was everyone enjoyed it comedy style. It was a lit and the way they deliver it too, interacting with the crowd. I mean, Shakespeare would be proud. It was all about being interactive back in the day.

SAM: 27:00
Yeah.

MAX: 27:01
So it was look, it was a lot another.

SAM: 27:04
Exactly. No fruit was thrown though.

MAX: 27:07
But yeah. But uh, I mean, coming out of one of the best productions I've ever seen, and and it happened to be Hamlet from Shakespeare on the Wednesday night. And then I was going into seeing Shakespeare again on Friday, I had my reservations. But look, it's a totally different approach. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So and it was really cool. So yeah, it was a great arts-filled week. I've come out of it smiling. Like normally you get a few hits and misses when it comes to events and things, but they were all on point. Nice. So it was a happy week.

SAM: 27:37
I had my TV C yesterday with um for that uh fashion thing. Uh it's actually it was with AFTT. Oh, okay. I've worked with them a lot. Do you remember my five student films I did with? I'm telling you.

MAX: 27:48
Oh, good on you. Yeah. Telling our about Scarborough.

SAM: 27:52
Yes, I'm telling all the listeners near Wollongong. Oh, okay. Okay. Um, but it was um uh you know that path well to Wollongong.

MAX: 28:01
Oh god, yeah. Did it bring back memories as you're going down the road? Did you start singing old songs from your previous musical down there?

SAM: 28:06
Yeah. But you know the the the the bridge, the sea bridge. Yeah. It was across right near that. Oh yeah. That's Scarborough's near there. Um near Stanel Thompson. Yeah, I know where it is.

MAX: 28:18
Yeah, it's a nice ride down there. Sometimes the boys and I, you know, the Vespa Club. The Vespa Club. We go down there for a ride. Because I was on the Vespa coming from the Blue Mountains. But uh midweek Vespa Club ride that everyone needs to know about now. Of course.

SAM: 28:30
But they hired an Airbnb, uh, which is really nice, and it was for a fashion so a local fashion brand has obviously hired AFTT students to shoot this.

MAX: 28:39
So they've paid the AFTT students?

SAM: 28:42
I'm guess I'm I guess so. So you get paid?

MAX: 28:44
I'm not getting paid. Isn't it interesting? By the time the dollars get down to the talent, there's a cut lunch and a glass of scale.

SAM: 28:50
I mean figured out it was Scarborough the day before.

MAX: 28:54
So they just told you the day before on the casting uh on the call sheet that it's gonna be a couple hours away.

SAM: 29:00
Yeah. Okay. And I was like, why not? It was a very it's like baggy t-shirts, baggy trousers, comfort clothes, as always. It's good stuff. They may need me for another sh day of shooting, hopefully closer to City. Because AFTs in Surrey Hills.

MAX: 29:15
It is, it's down the road.

SAM: 29:16
Yeah. Um, to do like shot of vodka or something in like a scene. Okay.

MAX: 29:20
Well, you've been practicing that.

SAM: 29:21
Oh yeah.

MAX: 29:23
Three bottles later. You've got it nailed. We're gonna have a drunk podcast. Oh no. Yeah, we are. It's I have to edit enough as it is. I mean, that's gonna give us so much.

SAM: 29:32
No, no, you're gonna be. It'll be like a five-minute podcast.

MAX: 29:34
We'll be talking for three hours and it'll be a five-minute podcast.

SAM: 29:38
And you're gonna edit drunk as well.

MAX: 29:39
Well, if I edit drunk, it's all going out there with the beeps in the wrong places. Let's do it. I missed a few. I missed a few. Every now and then it's the right I always press. No, it's not made for kids, but but but I do try and censor. And and that's every now and then I miss a like a like a ball or a you have to tick if it's good for kids now. Well, I don't because if I tick that it's made for children, oh you can't, yeah. It blocks all comments and it makes it difficult for the colour.

SAM: 30:05
No, no, you can you you click, you can click it's not made for children. Right. But it's over 18 comment.

MAX: 30:12
Okay, okay, okay.

SAM: 30:13
But I don't just I don't know what I'm ticking.

MAX: 30:15
I don't know. I'm trying to beep out the swear words, but you know, we're pretty good. But when we're drunk, I don't know.

SAM: 30:21
Oh yeah.

MAX: 30:22
Not when, if okay, anyway, and moving on.

SAM: 30:24
And our podcast's cocktail special smuggerina.

MAX: 30:28
That'll get some. You know what happened to me the other day?

SAM: 30:36
No.

MAX: 30:37
But you're about to tell me. Yeah, you bet. Because this is really like when you have LinkedIn and coming from 20 years in corporate, right? You know, it's kind of like your CV online and you have to have it. Like an actor has a show reel, you know, corporate player has a has a LinkedIn profile. And the recruiters, you know, a percentage is commission. They've got to get new people on the books, and and they only get paid when they get your job, so you end up being hassled sometimes. And uh look, I've been headhunted a couple of times where you're not looking, but people have said, hey, you know, got this great opportunity, come on, come on over. Yeah um, but uh every now and then someone reaches out and it's like, oh yeah, blah blah blah. I had this note, first of all, an invitation to connect. Hi, my name's Blah Blah Blah, and I'm opening up a new recruiting in in Piemont in the city of Sydney. I've seen your profile and I've seen that you've been unemployed for a long time. Uh happy to help. Uh just send your CV over and uh we can have a chat. So I'm like, first of all, excuse me. I'm not unemployed. I I am employed. It's not I haven't been unemployed for a long time. I'm an actor. And I shared the story. I know I run a podcast with unemployed in it, but just doing that as an employment. Yes. But I I I I put it on on social media. I'm like, can you believe this recruiter and corporate mates uh when they stop laughing?

SAM: 31:54
Did they see that you were employed on on your LinkedIn?

MAX: 31:57
Well, one well, I got a friend of mine who was a recruiter. He actually got me a job uh in a in a corporate uh back in the day, and uh when he stopped laughing, he said, uh, well, first of all, it wasn't me. I didn't I didn't check your profile and stuff it up. But what tends to happen is they tend to get lists that are filtered from LinkedIn, so sort of generate lists, and then it goes to India and they filter through who hasn't had blah blah or who's hasn't moved for a certain period of time or who's got this type in their role or whatever, and then the list gets filtered down and they just automatically you know, oh, they're not on my list. I'll contact them, I'll add, I'll build my network, and it's all about who you know. Because a lot of the like in the industry that I came from, you never advertise a job, it's all done through recruitment, so no one knows who's doing what and which company. And uh wow, I'm like, okay, well, this is seriously like you've actually just pressed the button and wrote written a great story introducing yourself, fallen over yourself though, because you didn't even bother looking at the profile. Like you can see, I'm like, it's got it's got I've got like two jobs. It's like two unemployed actors hosting producer podcasts from then till now, still current, present. I've got because you know, we're still going. We we we endeavor to do another episode next week. Yeah, and and actor from to present with well ice fry finished, and then it was archer management from last year till current.

SAM: 33:09
It's two jobs saying currently sent it to so many people though.

MAX: 33:12
I mean, at least, you know, have a look at who you're sending it to.

SAM: 33:15
You probably did a whole batch though.

MAX: 33:16
It was entertaining for my corporate friends anyway. But I'm like, you know, I'm not unemployed, I'm an actor. It even says voiceover actor. Anyway, I'm I'm over it. You know, not really, but uh well I look forward to doing my mockumentary tomorrow. I'll tell you all about it next week, so stay tuned for that amazing stories that are about to be. Uh, make sure you share us on Facebook, on social media, all of the socials, and follow us and on YouTube and all that sort of stuff, especially YouTube so you can see the Millennium Falcon being built out of Lego and in the backdrop.

SAM: 33:51
Our YouTube's good now, and we've got a lot of list uh viewers on YouTube.

MAX: 33:54
Yeah, but the views just spiked all of a sudden up there with the podcast listening.

SAM: 33:57
And it looks great now. A lot of people are watching Podcast Smalls.

MAX: 34:00
I know how to edit a bit more now.

SAM: 34:01
There we go, that's why people are watching.

MAX: 34:03
And I do that sober still.

SAM: 34:04
Yeah.

MAX: 34:05
So you'll be listening to two unemployed actors, I'm Max. I'm Sam. And we'll see you next week.

unknown: 34:09
Bye.

MAX: 34:09
Bye.

SAM: 34:10
Two unemployed actors.

MAX: 34:15
Where you're Fred. I'm just looking at Fred's ass right now and his tail's wagging, and it's slightly distracting. Fred, can I have the other end? You get the head. I get the happens I got a sausage dog. There's no compromise.

SAM: 34:27
There is no compromise.

MAX: 34:28
It's all nose or all.