April 16, 2020

Pandemic Projects, Alec Baldwin Live Stream & Tiger King Review | Ep 34

Episode 34: Virtual Plays with Alec Baldwin, LEGO Star Wars & Lockdown Survival

📝 Episode Summary

This week, we discuss Alec Baldwin’s live-streamed play Orphans, 7,500-piece Lego builds, household fire emergencies, and audition prep tips. Plus, we give our thoughts on Netflix’s Tiger King and the Aussie classic Animal Kingdom.

💡 Key Takeaways from this Episode

  • Virtual Live Theatre with Alec Baldwin
    Discussion on Redline Productions’ innovative live-streamed reading of
    Orphans, starring Alec Baldwin from New York alongside an Australian cast. How technology is opening up new possibilities for global theatre.
  • Isolation Projects & The 7,500-Piece Falcon
    Max reveals his finished pandemic build: the massive LEGO Ultimate Collector Series Millennium Falcon (and what happens when you end up with spare parts).
  • Kitchen Misadventures
    Max shares a household emergency involving a melting iron, smoke, and putting his fire blanket to the test.
  • Arts Sector Support & Union Efforts
    A look at MEAA and government relief packages (JobKeeper/JobSeeker) and how freelance actors and crew navigate financial support during industry shutdowns.
  • Audition Preparation & Mentorship
    Sam and Max talk about the importance of bouncing ideas off fellow actors during rehearsals, working with mentors, and keeping performances natural.
  • Unpacking Netflix's Tiger King
    Reviewing the viral docuseries and evaluating the last-minute virtual after-show special hosted by Joel McHale.
  • Retrospective Review: Animal Kingdom
    Reflecting on the iconic Australian crime feature film and the standout performances of Jacki Weaver, Ben Mendelsohn, and Joel Edgerton.
  • Max's Facebook Live Storyville Disaster
    Sam recounts a chaotic live-stream reading for children plagued by tech glitches, un-flipped camera angles, and how he edited his way out of it.

⏱️ Timeline & Key Moments

[00:00:00] - Intro

[00:01:48] – Redline Productions' live-streamed play Orphans, starring Alec Baldwin

[00:03:48] – Max’s pandemic project

[00:07:23] – A household emergency

[00:08:14] – Government support for the arts during lockdown

[00:10:47] – Audition prep techniques and working with mentors

[00:12:46] – Unpacking Netflix’s Tiger King and the virtual reunion episode

[00:17:03] – Reflecting on the Aussie feature film Animal Kingdom

[00:20:12] – Facebook Live Storyville tech nightmare

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MAX: 00:12
Hello everyone. It's Max and Sam. And it's Two Unemployed Actors, another week of excitement, some news, some GOS, some reviews, some stuff. Don't forget to like and subscribe whether you're watching us on YouTube or listening on your favorite podcast platform. Or you've been told by a good friend or someone you don't like, you know, you must listen, whatever. Just like and subscribe. I'll do a shout-out today. This is the first, because I actually went through the data today and I could see which town everyone's tuning in and where they live. No, I'm joking not where they live. It just comes up like a suburb or a city, really, really. So shout out to those in LA, uh, Austin, Texas, um, even good old Parramatta here in Sydney. Thanks for tuning in. Don't forget to like and subscribe. I may have mentioned it. Had some good news last week too, Sandy. You had some positive feedback from a production company and um someone else saying uh how good it sounds and and the voices sound sound good. And um Okay, the they always didn't I uh they and they loved the Ozark bit, which was great. So good. It's always good to get feedback, especially when it's positive. Something exciting happened on Sunday, and it wasn't just me sitting in a pile of chocolate eating my way out.

SAM: 01:23
It was even though that was one of the things.

MAX: 01:26
I actually bought a whole lot of chocolate. I'm going, oh, this is so cool. I deserve because I can I can justify buying chocolate like anytime, really. Oh well, it's pandemic and it's a special pandemic Easter. I'll just buy early. I'll buy chocolate early, and of course, none of it lasted till Easter, did it? I ate it all like within hours of buying the just anyway. Tasted nice. Uh can't complain. But anyway, I do have to exercise it, it reminds me. Sunday, Red Line Productions, the Australian Sydney Independent Theatre, put on a show.

SAM: 01:54
They put on a show with Alex Alec Baldwin, right?

MAX: 01:58
That's it. Pandemic. I'm I was all over my social. I'm like, this is gonna be amazing. Uh the play Orphans, and it was it was it was really cool. Like they're all dialed in, so the cameras on each of the players, including Alec Baldwin, and it was great. That was it was a great reading. And I actually said to them, pardon.

SAM: 02:16
Is he here in Sydney then?

MAX: 02:18
No, no, no, he was from his place in in New York. He was uh he was streaming in. So it's like it's like if you look at us on YouTube at the moment, it's got my camera and your camera. It's kind of like that for each. And then the production company who was organizing the stream for Red Line Productions, all the tech stuff, another one based here in Sydney uh basically just enlarged to as ever camera was talking. Um, actually found it like it was rather intuitive and and it helped it wasn't sort of distracting and helped you really identify with the character who's reading at the time, who's speaking. And I actually said to the guys, I said, Look, that was that was great. I mean, this could be another option to bring theatre to the masses, even when the world gets back to you know, whatever sort of normal it's gonna get up back to, and you're able to put on plays. Yeah, because they basically said, Here's a great play, first done in 2013. Uh Alec Baldwin was on stage in York. Why don't we why don't we reach out, ask Alec? And so they did. And he said, Well, let's not just make it across Australia, let's stream it worldwide. And away they went. So, really happy that it went really well for them because I mean, you know, was it live? It was absolutely live. Absolutely. So, how many how many viewers did they have? I don't know, thousands. I think it was like 4,000 or something on one stage. Imagine a theatre with 4,000 people. I just stopped counting up that because I was actually into the play, which is kind of good. But uh, yeah, no, you can imagine a theater with 4,000 people and it was absolutely live, it was fantastic. What a great way to keep the arts alive during uh pandemic style. So that happened, that was cool. Um, I finished, I put some on social of my pandemic project number one, the Millennium Falcon, Lego's biggest kit. 7,500 pieces. If you watch on YouTube, you can see it behind me now. I've moved my big fat head out of the way.

SAM: 04:01
It is almost as many pieces as a real car.

MAX: 04:04
Oh, I reckon. I I I think it looks better than the than the real the real than the real thing. That the Millennium Falcon that Han Solo flew. Uh you know, that had a few pieces missing. Probably like rust bucket of bolts, whatever he calls it.

SAM: 04:17
So yours is better, yours is newer.

MAX: 04:19
Although one eagle-eyed viewer of my social vid spotted the fact that there were some leftover pieces of Lego. So I don't know what happened. Well aren't those just the spare ones? I got to the end of the build and there was a little bag full of little bits and pieces that I hadn't used. So yeah, yeah, I'm just saying to myself, Lego, how did put some spares in?

SAM: 04:41
How do you how do you not use them? What did you did you miss? Well, I followed the instructions.

MAX: 04:45
The instructions are 600 pages. Come on. Oh, you skipped once. It's massive. I must have missed a piece here or there. But anyway, it looks amazing. That's not the point. That's not the point. Let's not get bogged down on the detail. I'm up to project two, which is uh lovely puzzle. I only caught Fred once with a piece in his mouth. So I won't know until I've actually finished the puzzle if he's eaten a piece or two. I caught him in his eyes, he thinks it's another it's another conspiracy to get attention away from him, like project number one. So he's a bit I I caught him pulling the the felt off the table with the whole puzzle on top of it. He I came in just as he started to pull that off, and I got him just in time because there was a moment. There was we both froze, and there was a moment where he could have gone either way, and I'm like, mate, don't even think about it. Full angry dad voice. So pandemic projects are moving along. It's uh 1500 pieces. Yeah. Oh, nice. 1500 pieces, and it's it's it's basically a a painting of New York, uh, half the Central Park and half the city, and everything's similar colours as you'd expect.

SAM: 05:47
Well, this weekend my my family and I did um we played a lot of trivia games. Oh, that's cool. Um, so trying to get you know, build out education in this time of struggle.

MAX: 05:58
Indeed. And I love I love how now we're into like everyone's going through their Netflix and everything's you know, they're watching as much as they can, but there's only so many, so much time you can sit on the couch, really. And everyone's going back to the old school Monopoly and trivia and all that sort of stuff, bringing the fam together.

SAM: 06:13
Oh my god.

MAX: 06:15
It's a miracle, it's a pandemic miracle. I'm trying I'm trying my hardest to be positive, mate. I really am. I went I went for a walk around the corner with with Fred to get a coffee to support the local takeaway. Um, and I said, I'll have a large cappuccino takeaway, please. He's like, Well, I can't exactly dine in, can I? I'm like, oh, sorry. It was pretty good about him. I'm like, oh, I didn't mean to rub it in. Sorry, mate. I'm trying to do the right thing, I still muck it up. That's funny. And then I'm walking back, and there was a huge cue outside Centelink still, which is our Australian you know, government office, to get uh to get financial support. I'm like, oh god, so I thought to myself, I'm gonna try my best to be positive today.

SAM: 06:53
I really am, even though if I'm lying to myself, you know, I'm gonna be No, look, that's all you can do is stay positive in this time, and that's yeah, you know, we uh just stay, stay, you know, stay healthy, exercise if you can, you know, you know, cook some good food at home, figure out some new things, find a new hobby.

MAX: 07:08
I bought a new fire blanket to replace the old one so I can get back into cooking now.

SAM: 07:14
Oh no, what happened to the first one?

MAX: 07:16
Oh the first one, well I I did think it would be for cooking, but actually I bought this iron and um I plugged it in and I went to pick it up and I I I heard crackling and I looked at it and the plastic was bubbling. I'm like, well, that's not that's not good. And I'm lucky I didn't grab it because the plastic was melting and then there was smoke and then there was flames, and I just stood there for a moment, went, well, that's not good. Um, and grabbed the fire blanket that for some reason it was on special when I bought something else, so I bought it thinking, you know, safety first, because I'm such a such a uh newbie kind of guy like that, and uh thought for sure it'll be for use on my cooking. But there I was unplugging the the iron as it's in flames, wrapping it in the fire blanket and racing it outside to hose it down. Um I got a new iron by the way. Well, actually, they said we can replace it with another iron. I said, you know what? What else do you have? Don't don't really feel comfortable about the iron. So they paid for the shirt that I burnt, they paid for the a new fire blanket, and they sent me a vacuum cleaner.

SAM: 08:13
Okay. Back on a quick thing about centralink. It's it's it's bad though that you know the people within the industry, actors and production crew alike, can't really apply for the job seeker one because it's not a 12-month contract. Most of them don't own on 12-month contracts, it's like three months here, then move on to another project, three months there.

MAX: 08:29
I know, and each project you're paid separately working for that production company, so you're not working. Yeah.

SAM: 08:35
You don't like uh it's just I I found I saw a post someone shared um written by Eddie Perfect, who's an Aussie actor.

MAX: 08:43
Yep.

SAM: 08:44
It's a long one, but it's really I'll try. We could I could I'll send it to you and you can put it on the book. Send me the link and I'll include it in our socials. Yeah, I'll send you the text of it or whatever. It you know, it's sad how how the government's kind of almost forgotten about.

MAX: 08:57
Well, I think it's really difficult because there's so many people that are affected and they've just had to rush through this $130 billion uh job seeker, job keeper program. I think what the the union was trying to, the MEAA here in Australia was trying to influence that decision to include lots of bits and pieces specific to the arts industry so that we weren't through the cracks. But obviously that didn't happen. They rushed through this $130 billion thing to get to as many people as possible as quickly as possible. But uh now the union's talking to the government about an industry-specific solution, so something tailored for the arts because there is I mean, yeah, already the arts arts industry was struggling and relies on some government funding and support, but you know, it won't it won't be there at all if we don't if we don't support it now.

SAM: 09:49
I did bring up your name to Grant Thompson.

MAX: 09:52
Uh-oh. Did he slap you down and go, that guy, that guy?

SAM: 09:55
He's like, who the f is that?

MAX: 09:57
What did he say?

SAM: 09:59
No, no, no, he totally remembers you because you guys apparently did something recently, like last year or something, whatever. Which I didn't know.

MAX: 10:04
We worked together on something, yeah.

SAM: 10:05
Yeah, so I I said um because somehow Jess brought up your name because we were talking about something, and then that reminded me. I knew you wouldn't. I knew you wouldn't.

MAX: 10:12
I knew you wouldn't. Thanks, Jess. Thank you, Jess, for remembering me.

SAM: 10:16
No, and then I remembered to say it's comes it up.

MAX: 10:19
Yeah, yeah.

SAM: 10:20
Um I shouldn't have said that. Um no, and so no, so I so I brought him up and I said, yeah, and it Grant's like, oh yeah, Max, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh yeah, he does he does uh podcast and then I'm like, yep, I'm the I'm the co-star of that one.

MAX: 10:33
I'm the other guy. I'm the dude. I'm the other guy.

SAM: 10:35
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. And and so that was cool, and and he said he he you're cool, dude. So Yeah. And then I told him that you're that you're that you're tutoring a uh or mentoring another dude for the same audition we're doing, and I'm like, And you know what, it was the same.

MAX: 10:53
It was the same.

unknown: 10:54
Yeah.

SAM: 10:54
But I mean beat him. That's what I said, and we have to smash them.

MAX: 11:01
Because that's what it's all about coming first. The inner sales guy and me, the cobra dude, is like what the f You know, I don't even care if I don't get the role.

SAM: 11:08
It's about beating you, that one one That's brilliant.

MAX: 11:13
What a team. We stick together, not. Um no, I I actually look it went quite well. I mean, at the end of the day, I was really just facilitating. I'm like, here's the tripod, here's the kit with the camera, here's the light, you know. Have you have you done it? Have we done the um we've yeah, we did it on Thursday. And uh good, yeah. I mean, I was just saying we've facilitated, I've sort of facilitated it all tech-wise, and then we we tested his phone to record it and record everything fine, use the directional mic, the lighting, blah blah. Help him arrange things. I mean, really, he's just Pardon? Was it at Ice Sprite or no, no, their offices is closed at the moment, they're working from home or no at my place. So uh very nice. So I've been replaced. So yeah. Well, like I said, I was just facilitating it, like the tech setup, and then he basically he basically um has everything prepared. I'm like, do you want to do just a quick read through? We did one or two read-throughs, and then really I'm just the reader, I'm just the other dude, which is how it should be, and the way he went. I I I said something like that. This this monotone voice in the background.

SAM: 12:16
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

MAX: 12:20
And uh and I just, you know, make sure that um he was happy with it before he left, and he seemed alright. It was good. Very good.

SAM: 12:27
He seemed alright.

MAX: 12:28
My charitable, my charitable moment. I can be a nice guy every now and then, not just an arsehole.

SAM: 12:32
Yeah, well we happens. I haven't actually filmed it with Grant. We did a couple read throughs, we went through it, we threw around some ideas, and we'll film it probably this coming week.

MAX: 12:47
So have you watched Tiger King?

SAM: 12:49
No, but it's been everywhere on my socials.

MAX: 12:52
Oh, everyone's talking about it because it's really this.

SAM: 12:56
It's on the one of that top Australia list and Netflix viewers and whatnot.

MAX: 13:01
Yeah, it's globally it's such a success for Netflix. Um so really it's so so really it's it's an insight into the lives of several absurd characters who in their own way are trying to inverted commas rehabilitate tigers yet also make a lot of money out of them. Um and combat or compete with each other in the process. And wicked and wild characters, like there doesn't seem to be any sort of winners out of it, although one of them is in in jail. Uh spoiler. But uh it's it was a really interesting train train wreck in slow motion, so to speak. And like every episode it's like you're left hanging and you just can't wait to binge the next one.

SAM: 13:42
Is it it's fictional, right?

MAX: 13:44
No, no, it's a it's true. It might look like a mockumentary because they're so absurd, but it it really is these it's really very cool. Uh, and I think it's edited, like some people are saying, Oh, you know, it's not about rehabilitating tigers at all, and and that's so wrong, and they're just leveraging it for I'm like, well, it's not about it's not a National Geographic special on tigers, it's about these characters who happen to have these interests that that coincide that make them all the more crazy. Uh uh. Uh so because it's so successful, right? What they did, they being Netflix, is get the production company to um scrape together another episode. What they call what they call an after show. So I'm thinking it's got the same production value as the full miniseries, the full sorry, the documentary, and it's gonna be sort of insightful and follow-up and that sort of stuff. So what happened was this after show was hosted by Joel McHale, and I tuned, I tuned into a Netflix live Instagram chat with him and someone from Netflix. And what happened was they basically contacted him on a Thursday and said, Hey, uh I want you to host this after show, um, and we want it done by Friday. How am I gonna do this? It's pandemic. Oh, we'll send everyone iPhones. So what they did was they sent everyone, everyone being each of the characters in the production, um, except Carol Baskin. She doesn't want to be a part of it, and if you watch, you'll understand why. But anyway, uh so basically they end up with it actually, they filmed it on an iPad. They phoned each other so they could understand each other and record sound through the iPad while each of them had a 4K camera set up so that they could do it could do a one-on-one interview with each of them, and then they stitched together the one-on-one interviews to make this after show special. I mean, so look, I I just think it devalued the whole process, really. I I like it was it really, it really looks like what it was a last-minute ditch to capitalise on the Netflix uh number one documentary and and and and throw something together to get some more eyeballs on it. It really didn't add any sort of value to it, I don't think. That's just my my perception. Um it wasn't quite and you've got like you've got some real issues that underline these characters, which makes it even more resounding in your mind when when when you think of major things like someone's husband disappeared, uh a tiger bit off someone's leg or bit in sorry, bit off bit into their arm that had to be amputated. Uh this guy has been accused of shooting tigers to make space for new tigers because the money's in photos with cubs. Another one's like it's like they aren't light, but there they were in this sort of comical kind of a late show type vibe, you know, a one-liner to sort of introduce them and really softball questions. It's like I don't know that you can really make light of it to that extent. Like, there's some pretty hardcore issues that are raised in this documentary. I don't know if an after-show kind of interview sort of dealers no. So I don't know, I didn't really find it that I didn't actually get through it all. But uh That's fair enough. For someone who loved Tiger King, but anyway.

SAM: 16:59
Well, I watched um Animal Kingdom, the Aussie movie finds.

MAX: 17:03
Oh, how good is that?

SAM: 17:05
Yeah, so you've seen it.

MAX: 17:06
Oh, absolutely. Jackie Weaver, Ben Mendelssohn, fantastic, Joel Lidgerton, fantastic, lots of great Australian characters.

SAM: 17:13
I love how the TV show has really taken ideas from the film and like branched out the characters even more. Um, but I really love where the like how the basis for all the characters in the TV show really did come from the film. Yeah. And it can you can see that, and I oh, it's just like Joel Edgerton is so good that like he developed that character within what 30 minutes or something. Because that's all he had, really. Um and he developed that character personally, like obviously the whole cast were amazing. I actually think I prefer Ellen Barkin's version of Smurf from Jackie Weavers. Um, but also it's not fair to compare them, I guess, because like you've got Ellen Barkin who has a whole series to develop her character.

Speaker 2: 17:59
Yeah.

SAM: 17:59
Um, but at the same time, you then look at Joel Edgerton, who I think developed his character and showed that he was the leader, showed that he was in charge in such like subtle ways and in a shorter amount of time than everyone in the film.

MAX: 18:10
Do you know who was nominated for an Academy Award out of that production?

SAM: 18:15
Who?

MAX: 18:16
Jackie Weaver. Which was I mean, she's such a lovely person. She was very good. And she was this hard, rough dictator style, if you could say the word mother. There's nothing.

SAM: 18:30
She was good, but she didn't have much screen time until the end, did she?

MAX: 18:34
Well, it earned her a nomination for an Academy Award, which propelled her career in Hollywood. She got another one for Silver Lining's playbook as well, which was great. But but that that really like she's in LA now, uh based in LA and popping up all over the place. And I think the last one was Palms, actually. Yeah. So, but uh that was that was that for me, that was amazing what what she did with that character in because it's such an important character to be the one who sort of drives that family unit, um, and and so influential. I mean, it was just it was a great movie. I could easily watch it again, actually. I might put it on my little pandemic.

SAM: 19:06
Yeah, it was actually very good. I think it was like the acting was amazing, and and Ben Mendelssohn's acting like no movement in his face yet. You thought he was gonna kill someone every single line.

MAX: 19:20
And again, that helped him. The success internationally of that movie helped him uh move forward in in Hollywood as well. I know I just finished watching the series The Outs The Outsider, I think it was based on Stephen King with him in the starring role. Fantastic. So lots of great Australian actors in that. It was well worth watching. It just goes to show the power that that movie had, that the screenplay had, like that they had so many great characters. Um that you can you can develop into a series that you know can can can run for a series.

SAM: 19:54
It was such a good idea to turn it, like uh you can see how that could have become a series, like starting and just branching it out and you know, making it a whole longer story. It's just so cool.

MAX: 20:13
I had a bit of a disaster last week.

SAM: 20:15
Oh, yes, of course.

MAX: 20:17
Remember how I was invited to do a Storyville Live to read to the children live on Facebook. Look, look, it was all going well. Like I had everything organized about 45 minutes before I was finalizing my little tech bits, making sure the phone was right and I'd signed into their account okay and I did everything perfect. Then I realized that the picture hadn't flipped, so everything's backwards and you can only flip it when you're using an iPhone. If you're on an Android, if you're on an Android, you can't flip the picture on Facebook Live. Oh no. I'm I I've gone, oh god, what am I gonna do? And I thought I could try using the camera on the computer. So I quickly logged out, logged in on my desktop, and and the camera was horrible. It's like a two-megapixel piece of poo. So I'm like trying to, you know, all the words are blurry no matter where I held the book, and I'm like, oh god, oh god, oh god, now it's only 20 minutes to go, and I'm like panicking. Yeah, and then I I've I've logged in again on the phone and hooked it up and tried to work out where I was standing, like put a mark on the floor so I knew when I was in frame, which is tough when you're doing it on your own, and the phone isn't flipped, it was recording from the original camera, not the selfie camera, so you can't see yourself, right? Because I'm running now trying to work it out. It's now five minutes past, and I'm running late and I'm panicking. So I'm trying to log back in and it wouldn't let me log back in. I'm like, you're joking. After all this, I can't log in. Anyway, quick distress phone call to whoever's organizing it. Like, don't panic. It's okay. It's this is a soft launch, it's not official yet. We're whining out the bug. Don't pal. I'm like, because I'm oh my god, the children. And so she's like, just calm down. Just do it. Um 30. Because you know, I want to get everything right. And she's like, just how about you start at 4:30 instead of 4? And that's fine if you can't, as long as you're happy you've got it. So anyway, what ended up happening was I pressed record, and then there's the first five awkward seconds, or maybe 10, of me sort of standing there looking at the camera, going, Oh my god, is it working? I don't even know if it's working. Maybe I didn't press it. And then I've looked again. Oh no, I'm live. Oh, great. So then I've started. So rather than starting nice and smooth as a storyteller should, it was a bit of awkward me. It got to the point where I actually over the weekend I was thinking about it. Like that's how and it was like a 10-minute storybook read. So I've this morning, this morning, I downloaded it using some software and I edited it so that the first 10 awkward seconds were removed. And I could then upload it and send it to them going, look, if this is what you want to send to the publisher to see if we can get the grant, then maybe or replace the original post with this, you know, go for it. I'm like, I couldn't relax until I'd given it to them, you know, 100%. Oh, it was some stress was happening. You'd think reading to children would be a bit simpler, right? Corona world to my crisis. Oh my god. It all came down to the phone not flipping in in Facebook Live. Bugger. Bugger. What's this week look like for you?

SAM: 23:29
Practicing more of this audition, and hopefully, if we can go see Grant on Friday and shoot it and stuff. Um I'm a bit I'm a big fan.

MAX: 23:38
I'm a big fan of having like sitting with it and having someone poke it a bit and then sitting with it again before you, you know, go and Well we were talking about, and it's like this is where ideas flow is in rehearsals.

SAM: 23:50
Like you can do only so much at home, and then you do rehearsal with someone and you you know bounce ideas back and forth. And I'm that type of person that's like, oh damn, I didn't come up with that idea myself, or it's like, oh, like, is that okay? Is that like ah and he's like, Look, you're the actor. Yeah, you know, that's what the director's job is to give you some ideas and you execute it, you know. Like, that's right, don't worry about it. That's all good.

MAX: 24:13
Wherever the inspiration comes from, how big or small, just keep keep going with it.

SAM: 24:16
Yeah, and you've given me heaps of ideas, and that's where I'm getting it from. And you know, that that's okay. And I know it's a team process, I just get like that. But it's really good to hear that, you know. Like, obviously, if you leave he used an exam with the case.

MAX: 24:26
So K Sam, that's normal. Don't panic.

SAM: 24:29
If you leave actors to you know, actors need to. I know, I know.

MAX: 24:32
You spend so much time with the character, you start to freak out sometimes.

SAM: 24:34
You leave them to their own devices, you end up like Max. But that's like well said. But so that was I don't know. That was good. Um, but there was uh there's a competition, uh, actor competition. Win $500, get to talk with Kirsty McGregor, or she gets to see your work. Um uh you get to talk to I think to an agent or whatever. Yeah, and Grant wants both Jess and I to do that, and we've been practicing this script and we've memorized it, and he and he said to us, he's like, What I want you to do is randomly at home, Sam, you've got the first line. Randomly at home, I want you to start with that line, and Jess, you have to keep going. We have to you then do the script randomly at home, you know, like you eating something, like eating breakfast, start it, you know, just like do it and and and feel how natural it is. And he's like, You you guys have the the advantage of you know actually being in a relationship. And this script is a is a relationship script, like a couple scripts. Perfect. We've had some cool ideas, so hopefully we'll film that next week as well and enter it into the competition. I woke up the other morning, still like half asleep, turned around and just said my first line of what do you want to do about the couch?

MAX: 25:40
Still thinking about work.

SAM: 25:41
Yeah, and and it and it was so natural, it was so natural. It's really good.

MAX: 25:45
Well, I saw a post from uh Kirsty McGregor on social media showing um a media, I think it was uh magazine article about her stint on neighbours as an actor. And it there there was like she was 13, you know, her and it was about her new relate her character's new relationship with Toby or the character's name's Toby, you know, some magazine goths. I commented, like, oh my god, I actually remember those episodes. I remember I remember as a little teenage boy watching those particular episodes, like I remember the character and those those characters. I'm like, yeah, are you older than a while ago? I don't know. I mean, well, she was there. I could I could have been probably like 14, 15, I don't remember.

Speaker 2: 26:26
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

MAX: 26:27
I don't remember exactly when. I just remember those those characters on neighbours. Like I think when I started to sort of go, what is this thing that everyone talks about? Kylie Minogue and Jason Donovan were still on. Yeah. And then they got married and disappeared or something, and then that's when I sort of started to get into the whole after school soapies. Oh yeah. Soap operas for kids. But um and I think I liked Home and Away more. I don't know why. I'm a Melbourne boy. You'd think I'd like Ramsey Street being filmed in Victoria in Melbourne, but uh maybe it's the beach, just love the beach.

Speaker 2: 26:58
Yeah.

MAX: 26:58
Well, I have to well, until I'm on neighbours anyway, because I was on Home and Away as the marvelous character that was police officer number two or whatever. Uh with my amazing line of all clear. Did you get that? Did you s did you feel that? Did you feel the energy from that?

SAM: 27:15
I felt the intensity.

MAX: 27:16
Cop energy does it every day, just like yeah, all clear.

SAM: 27:18
I watched your interrogation short film.

MAX: 27:20
What did you think?

SAM: 27:22
It was good.

MAX: 27:22
I'm glad you said that, because otherwise I'd have to edit that out. But uh I liked your acting. Good. And I had to become right-handed in that because I just got hit by the car like just before the production. Yeah, yeah. So when we're in rehearsal, I had to do the blocking with uh with my right hand. Anyway, that's I I I I think I'm entitled to whinge about that because it hurt like hell.

SAM: 27:43
Yeah. Well, you can tell you're a voice artist when with that that beginning bit where you got your voiceover.

MAX: 27:48
Oh yeah, yeah. We went and recorded the eight, we did ADR after on that, and we recorded a few different versions. But but look, that we shot that in one day. I mean, we did a the benefits of doing a rehearsal, we had two days to shoot, but we did a rehearsal, and we all sort of turned up having done all our homework. So we it sort of helped us ease into the rehearsal, taking some risks, working out blocking that sort of stuff. So by the time we were there to film, it was um it just worked seamlessly, it was perfect. It was one of those productions where everything sort of came together, everyone had a job to do. Did you like it?

SAM: 28:17
Do you like how it turned out?

MAX: 28:19
I do. I thought it was great. I saw a rough cut before the soundtrack before colour grading, and I'm like, oh, that's awesome. Can I share it? It's like, no, it's isn't finished yet. Calm, calm down, not finished yet. And when I saw the colour grading and then there's the the soundtrack uh to it, like just to build that intensity, it was just oh brilliant. I was I was really happy with it. They were kind enough to let me share it. I did ask them over the weekend if I could put it up on my YouTube as well, and they were kind enough to let me do that. Nice. Um go to the festivals. No, they've entered it in festivals, although some of the festivals are going ahead thanks to pandemic. Others have just moved online completely, which is great. They've accommodated it that way. I haven't put it into my show rule yet because there's so much of Max in Attire shouting, whether I'm angry businessman or angry crazy guy or I don't need angry detective.

SAM: 29:09
So do the moments where you're where you're really quiet and just kind of staring at the in the beginning. Yeah, because that's not angry, but it's obviously you in a true shirt, but but it looks good. It's not as it's angry, yeah, yeah.

MAX: 29:22
Well, I should get the taking soon, which is complete opposite something new, me being crazy, wrapped in a blanket, hearing voices. So I think when that drops, I'll I'll incorporate that and and the interrogation, maybe replace some other angry shadow max in my show realm. You've been listening to Max.

SAM: 29:38
And Sam, sorry, go again.

MAX: 29:41
How much dead air do you want? You really want me to work really fing hard on the editing, don't you? No. Jesus Christ. Alright, one more time. Here we go. You've been No. I'm Max. I'm Sam. You've been listening to two unemployed actors. Don't forget to like and subscribe. We'll be back next week. Bye.

Speaker 2: 30:01
Two unemployed actors.

SAM: 30:05
Oh good. Jess is walking out of the room.

MAX: 30:09
Something I said.

SAM: 30:11
Something you said, yeah.

MAX: 30:14
So I think she's playing a nice. I had a bit oh, she has to go out of the house for that, doesn't he? Um I think I Corona.

SAM: 30:22
Um I'm Oh, she's oh wait, hold on.

MAX: 30:28
Oh, just trying to upstage Sam. Jesus. G give him a moment in the limelight, for God's sake. He gets thirty minutes a week. Come on. It's hard enough making him sound good in the edit.