Hollywood History, Tiger King Updates, and Sam’s "Consequences" Audition Sneak Peek | Ep 37

MAX: 00:12
Hello everyone. I'm Max. I'm Sam. We are two unemployed actors, and this is the podcast, just in case you don't know where you are. We've got so much to talk about today on the day where Tiger White is confirmed to be directing a Star Wars movie and co-writing it. We also had confirmation that Nicolas Cage is going to be the Tiger King. And we've got a few Netflix shows to talk about. Sam's practicing a new script and much more. So make sure you like and subscribe and listen up. First of all, new Star Wars, Tiger Whitedy is conf the rumors were rife. I mean it was pretty much confirmed before it was confirmed, if you know what I mean. But uh it's actually official, which means they've paid him enough. Uh and and he's going to co-write it as well, which is exciting because remember the humour he injected into Thor and made it a bit more interesting, a bit more depth to the characters.

SAM: 01:05
Yeah, he's awesome.

MAX: 01:06
It's gonna be so oh, I just can't wait to see what he can come up with. I mean, fresh out of Academy Award for screenplay of Jojo Rabbit, which is still one of my favourite movies so far this year. Um I just can't wait to see what he does to Star Wars. I'm sort of on the one hand, I'm I'm nervous because I'm I'm like old school, the original three movies, love them, still my favourite, and it's a bit hard now. Disney's pumping them out every well, Disney's pumping them out every 30 minutes, but uh I I'm kind of you know on the other hand, I'm excited to see what this genius can do to the Star Wars Empire franchise. More like a franchise empire.

SAM: 01:43
He'll yeah, he'll add some of those comedic aspects as well.

MAX: 01:46
He directed the I haven't seen the Mandalorian series. I haven't got Disney Plus, I've got bloody everything else. But uh I got Foxtel, I got I got I got Stan, Netflix, uh there's something else I'm forgetting, and I don't know, the bills keep coming.

SAM: 02:01
But you don't have Disney Plus. What a what a horrible life, Matt.

MAX: 02:05
Oh, I've sheltered. So apparently uh he directed he directed the finale of season one of The Mandalorian, and it's been so successful that it's also done what Disney wanted it to do and bring subscribers into their new Disney Plus platform. But the second series is is into production, it's been green lit, it's going, it's happening. Lots of Star Wars. I'm I'm excited. I'll just move so you can see on the camera my um wonderful prop there, the Star Wars Millennium Falcon. I have to show it every now and then, Sam. It took me three weeks to build.

SAM: 02:37
I know, I know, I know. Well, I wish I could see it, but you know, you just you don't give me the luxury of seeing your face.

MAX: 02:43
I've posted photos on uh on uh on social media and uh well we'll be back in the studio soon. We're getting close to real life coming back as opposed to academic life.

SAM: 02:55
I like it here. I don't get to I don't have to as much.

MAX: 02:58
You can't hide.

SAM: 02:59
Set it up, talk to you on the podcast, that's it. You know, it's a fake relationship. Everyone knows.

MAX: 03:03
Five seconds before, yep. Are you ready? Yep. And then it's the Sam that we hear, like he's really like this all the time, and then it's back to bye.

SAM: 03:12
No, it's gonna it's gonna be, yeah, no, you you you call me, you're like, are you ready? I'm like, shut up, and then we just go.

MAX: 03:17
Like, who is this? Is this you again, Max? What are you recording already?

SAM: 03:21
Oh, is it today?

MAX: 03:23
Is it today? Oh man. Tiger King is the gift that just keeps on giving. Am I right? I mean, it's just amazing. Before I go into how cool it is to have Nicolas Cage playing Joe Exotic, and once it's announced, I mean that just seems obvious, right? But uh but uh but I I shared something on my personal pro a personal social um about a couple of people who convinced Carol Baskin that they were from the Tonight Show Jimmy Fallon, and they were happy to do an interview, and she said yes. And so there they are pretending to be Jimmy Fallon while getting the first interview since the series from Carol Baskin. It's war crazy, but it's it's crazy because they used sections of audio of Jimmy asking questions, and he's had the cast of cats on, he's had an actual cat, he's like so referencing cats, so there's enough there to make it look like, or I should say, sound like he's asking the questions. So anyway, I'll link it to our social on to unemployed because it's worth a look. You can't how's that not been it's probably why we haven't done it, but uh that hasn't even been taken down.

SAM: 04:42
Like, how how has it not been taken down?

MAX: 04:45
I so many questions. Once again, Tiger King gives us a gift and we have so many questions. I wish I had answers, but it's too good to look away. It's like uh slow-moving car crash. So I'll link it in our social because it's it's pretty it's pretty funny.

SAM: 05:02
Talking about Netflix shows, the reason I haven't watched Tiger King yet is because I'm watching a new limited series called Hollywood.

MAX: 05:08
Oh yeah.

SAM: 05:09
Um have you heard of it?

MAX: 05:11
No.

SAM: 05:12
It's very cool. It's uh set in 1947 Hollywood. Um, so just after the war. Yeah, yeah, well Golden Era, but what is it between 1913 and 1969 was the Golden Era. So yeah, smack bang in the middle. And it's created by Ian Brennan and Ryan Murphy, who both did Glee. Um and The Politician, which I I think you haven't seen yet, but I've spoken about on the podcast before. Uh, The Politician, it has Ben starring Ben Platt from Dear Evan Hansen, uh who's amazing in it. It's a great show. Jess and I are waiting for season two, we're just like, come on. Um so they did that. Um Ryan Murphy did American Horror Story. It's funny, I don't know, you you hear a lot about Ryan Murphy, you don't hear a lot about Ian Brennan, but they have done a quite a bit together. And it stars David uh Corenswet and Darren Chris from Glee as well. He star he he um acted in Glee.

MAX: 06:06
Um is there lots of singing like the Glee thing, or is it more of a Docko style approaching? Yeah, no, no singing behind the scenes.

SAM: 06:12
No singing, not even like it it's a story. So there's a lot of new faces, but there's some like the Jim Parsons plays uh Henry Wilson, who was the actual agent of Rock Hudson.

MAX: 06:24
Right.

SAM: 06:25
And you've got Holland Taylor and Dylan McDormott, and they're they're all in this show, and it's so it's set in Hollywood 1947 and set in a studio lot it was set in the Hollywood, but it's a lot of the story uh is done um in a studio called Ace Studios, which is based on I think MGM Studios, which was a big studio, yeah, huge, massive.

MAX: 06:48
They used to have lots of stars that were contracted to the studio in those days, like they'd have to do, you know, five movies.

SAM: 06:57
Yeah, exactly. And that's how this show's written, and it's got this guy who wants so David uh Cornsweat plays um a guy named Jack who who wants to make it big in Hollywood and he meets a guy. It actually it's it's a lot about who you know, not what you know, and yeah, that he he meets people through this, and then he gets contracted to the studio and he's a movie star, all this stuff. But it it it tackles like the the topics of having a black writer and a black uh lead in a in a film in 1947 and being openly gay and stuff like that. So Rock Hudson, so there's a guy who plays Rock Hudson, so a lot of the characters it's it's really not it's not really based in truth because a lot of it is not what happened, but a lot of the characters were real people.

MAX: 07:43
Like Rock Hudson was a real dramatised based on some.

SAM: 07:46
Yeah, exactly. So rock so Rock Hudson was a real person, and there's a guy who plays Rock Hudson in this, and Henry Wilson. Sorry?

MAX: 07:54
Rock Hudson was a great actor.

SAM: 07:56
Yeah, he was great, and so Jim Parsons plays Henry Wilson, Rock Hudson's agent, which it it's it kind of gives you an insight into how crazy Hollywood was back then, and it's still like crazy now, but it's just like some of the dark stuff that was happening and how studios had so much power in those days, it was incredible.

MAX: 08:13
Like they could control a star so people would be manipulated.

SAM: 08:17
I Jess and I were reading an article actually about how studios would make women put like a new morality section in their contract and make women have abortions and be unmarried because it made it look scandal like scandalous if they didn't.

MAX: 08:34
And the old marriages where they put the stars together to manufacture a relationship and all that sort of stuff. It's interesting now how much the power has swung away from the studios to um actors who are producing more. Like you look at like an idol of mine, Reese Witherspoon, who threw the teen comedies and dramedies uh to a point where she's optioning great stories to bring them to life, uh, books and um a booming production company. Um that's just amazing to have that much sort of control um and influence. It's it's totally different to back in the day.

SAM: 09:08
Yeah, exactly. And it's a great show. Like rock like obviously Rock Hudson was put in a heterosexual marriage just to fake that for publicity and all that stuff, but in this show they kind of make it more of a happy ending than it actually was. Um and you know, he he opens up about being gay and all this stuff, and and it it it's it's a very it's quite a cool show, like the costumes are awesome because it's set in 47, and the cars are sick and all this and all the settings are awesome. Um it's just really well made, and the the title sequence, the intro to the show is is pretty awesome as well.

MAX: 09:41
So how many episodes is it? And it's on Netflix?

SAM: 09:43
It's seven, yeah, it's on Netflix, and it's seven episodes. Meant to be a limited series, but people are saying, as we know from from Ryan Murphy, he generally doesn't stop there. So hopefully, Jess and I finished all seven episodes already, but hopefully, uh there'll be more.

MAX: 10:00
Speaking of series, I discovered completely by accident, just flicking through Netflix in a bored moment. Uh I think it's a French production. There's so many, so many dialects in it. Uh it's based in Europe, it's called Into the Night. And it's like a lost but more believable, with with characters that are better written and and I think you know, more depth to them, and they're just a bit more interesting. Okay. Um, I say lost because it's a people on a plane and and a lot of drama happens. Really, it boils it boils down to uh a drama around normal people who in in extraordinary situations and and how they change and how they interact, etc., and how they solve problems that keep cropping up. Um I think it's about seven or eight episodes. I I watched it all, I couldn't help it, it was amazing, and and um really recommend it. It's a bit it's a bit more uh grittier than a loss, but it's still quite nice. There's there's humour in it. What was it called again? Real characters, into the night.

SAM: 10:59
Into the night.

MAX: 11:00
So individuals that, yeah, they do lose it at times and they do get happy and the rest of it. But imagine, you know, they're stuck they're they're this guy's just got them on a plane, uh, just normal, they turn up the airport to go somewhere, and all of a sudden um they realize there's an issue around the world based on some catastrophe, and uh they just can't land where they think they can. And the drama, and they have to go in a certain direction, otherwise they carcet, they die. It's all over. It's really interesting. And that's all it's on. Uh Netflix.

SAM: 11:33
Netflix as well.

MAX: 11:34
Completely by accident. Some of those uh European dramas are quite good, but this is awesome. One, I'll tell you one, but that's really dark. Oh my god, another another accident that I tuned into called uh Get In. Okay. And not get out, it's get in. This is 2017, but I think it just dropped on Netflix recently. Um it's b based on a true story, and this couple goes away on holidays, let the baby sit and look after the house for a couple of months while they're traveling in the c in the caravan with the kid and just sit look, you know, look after the place, but as long as you pay electricity bill or whatever, you know, we're fine, we'll see when we get back. They turn up, the gate won't open, they can't get in. The lock won't open the gate. They're they're well no, sorry, it's our house. They call the police on them because here's the rental contract saying, Yeah, it's theirs as long as they pay the U2 Lee bill, go away.

Speaker 2: 12:26
Yeah.

MAX: 12:27
And and literally it it's this couple how they go from an oh my god moment, okay, get a lawyer, we've got to do this, this is ridiculous, it'll be solved in five days, says the lawyer, to this whole like clockwork orange type ending where it's just uh insane and it is a rated R 18. It's like it goes dark and it's based on a true story, it's phenomenal. What did you say it was called? Get in. It's I think it's a French Canadian production, actually. But it's it's just ridiculous. And the fact that it's based on a true story, I don't know how one of these loosely based on or, but it it's it's pretty full on. Oh my god, it's really full on, it just goes full clockwork orange towards the end, it's just massive. But um, I did not expect it. Like it's one of those ones you just watch and go, oh yeah, like a popcorn movie, but it starts to draw you in and you just can't look away, you've got to work out what's going on because you feel for them.

SAM: 13:21
Yeah, right.

MAX: 13:22
The house is just taken away from them. And the law is on the side of the well, they signed the contract saying they'll pay the utilities, the utilities were in their name, yeah. And uh so they're they're they've got a right to be there, and you have to go through the court process to kick them out, and then there's a freeze during winter where you can't evict people in winter for obvious reasons, they'll freeze to death. Uh so they end up for weeks and months and months trying to get the house back. It's it's I I think a phenomenal story, just really cool.

SAM: 13:51
Yeah, right. That sounds good.

MAX: 13:52
But uh it goes all a bit Kubrick towards the end. It's like one. Oh god, it earns its R18 plus. Oh, you've got to tune in. Imagine that. You turn up in your house, someone's in your house, no, it's it's ours. We change the locks, go away. Not your best day. No, and it's certainly not the best ending for them. Oh my god. Anyway, I don't want to give too much away, but that's that's worth look. So it's good that we've been enjoying pandemic to you know broaden our horizons. Yeah, it's it's I'm gonna definitely watch Hollywood. I'm gonna tune into that because that sounds awesome because I know a lot about the old studio system. What's this new script you were alluding to?

SAM: 14:35
It's another script that Grant has given Jess and I uh practice for self-tapes and whatnot.

MAX: 14:42
So a scene challenge for you.

SAM: 14:44
It's it's a longer one. It's about, I don't know, four or five pages. Okay. Um and it's uh it's called Consequences, and it's about um kind of a uh uh siblings, um, and but we're gonna play it as kind of a couple relationship, but a guy kind of gets-ball makes more sense. A guy kind of gets out of prison.

MAX: 15:08
It's like you doing those romantic scenes with your mum back in the past.

SAM: 15:10
Oh yes, back back in back in like podcast number three or something. I mentioned that. Go back and watch it, guys. The quality is shitter and we're shitter.

MAX: 15:19
But the stories are just as good.

SAM: 15:20
But the stories are just as good.

MAX: 15:23
Romantic self tape with me mum.

SAM: 15:25
That should be a slogan. That should be that should be too unemployed slogan. Um, so he he just gets out of prison uh from drugs and whatnot, um, and kind of get comes to a door and says, I need a place. And it's that kind of tense relationship and um drama. It's interesting, it's really cool. Like we we practiced it in an American accent. Not that we were going to do it in that accent, but it was just fun to do that and then keep your dialect fresh. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Uh also we've started Supernatural again, you remember that TV show.

MAX: 16:00
Supernatural.

SAM: 16:00
Did you ever watch it? So it's on Stan. It's with um I've got the actors' names, but it's been running for 15 years. They're up to season 15, is uh it's finishing this year. Season 15. 15 years. It was very, very popular it still is very, very popular.

MAX: 16:22
Has the storyline sort of matured along with the audience, or are they just keeping it?

SAM: 16:27
I tried watching it when I was 14 and had nightmares for four weeks. It's a it's a thriller kind of uh TV.

MAX: 16:33
It's darker than you thought. Yes, but then Batman and Tights running around saying pow.

SAM: 16:37
Yeah, exactly. Jess watched up to season nine, um stopped watching whatever. Um, it's ahead of you. Yeah, but we've started again now, and we were because the pilot's quite scary, and she remembers it as being scary as well. And we started watching it and we're looking at the CGL CGI like this is uh this isn't as bad as we remember.

MAX: 16:54
But it's also funny, isn't it, when you revisit a storyline and characters at later on in life and you look back at it and go, wow, that's you look at it completely differently with life experience.

SAM: 17:04
Yeah, exactly. And um, so we're starting that, and obviously you've got fifty we've got 15 seasons to get through. Um but usually you you know, usually shows finish in what season eight at the longest. Oh, even if they're very popular. 15 is very unusual. Like like forget about home and away, you know. That's just you they don't even have freaking seasons.

MAX: 17:25
They've got to be doing something right to get to 15.

SAM: 17:35
So that actor, that AAC T A, that actor um uh comp that Jess and I went for, I think we're they're revealing the short list tomorrow. So that's exciting.

MAX: 17:47
Wow. So how many how how big's the short list? Um I mean, obviously it's short.

SAM: 17:52
I think it's a short list of like ten people. Okay or something. If I remember correctly, I could be completely.

MAX: 17:57
Are you excited or are you nervous?

SAM: 17:59
Um I'm excited to hear I'm not really nervous. Like, what's if I don't get it, I don't get it, you know what I mean.

MAX: 18:04
You still get you still get yourself up in front of them, so it's yeah, exactly.

SAM: 18:07
And um, what did it say? My thing has had 35 views, so that's pretty good, my videos. So good.

MAX: 18:13
Hopefully it's looks like the judges just watching it over and over again.

SAM: 18:16
Yeah, I know. Oh, like they left themselves so the cutoff date was Sun last Sunday. And they left themselves what, like a week and a bit to cipher through all these.

MAX: 18:27
So it cut off and then they had just over a week to review it all. Well, I guess with pandemic life you got a bit more downtime, perhaps.

SAM: 18:33
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess. But like still that's that's a lot.

MAX: 18:38
What what's the maximum time that each was allowed to be each short or each bit?

SAM: 18:43
Each each audition. Each comp. It's the same script. Everyone had to do the exact same script. Okay. So that script was probably about two, three minutes.

MAX: 18:53
Okay.

SAM: 18:54
Yeah. So it was a script that they'd written, um, applying to now, talking kind of about isolation and viruses uh and coronavirus and stuff, and it's about kind of a relationship between I guess you can you can figure out who it's between, but we did it more like a couple, um and talking about selling items and I don't know, it's a weird thing, but they've written it for this comp, so you can watch a lot of people's on YouTube, it's very it's quite funny actually. Right. Um to see other people's and see how different they are.

MAX: 19:25
It sounds it sounds really cool. Yeah, it'd be interesting. I mean, giving everyone the same and seeing just how different the end result can be. That'd be fascinating.

SAM: 19:34
It's funny how many people overact, and obviously I used to be like that and obviously can will be in some scenarios that I'll have to be whipped to be like, oh yeah, whoops, I'm not I'm not meant to be able to. No, there's a lot of people who overact, and and I didn't realise, you know, like you you gotta you're not the only one.

MAX: 19:57
Yep. So I found out today, I found out today that Extraction is greenlit for uh a sequel or prequel, whichever direction I want to go in. What the movie, the movie.

SAM: 20:16
It's not a plot-driven film, it can't do that.

MAX: 20:19
The the well, the way they left the ending ambiguous and the characters that they developed were so they can do prequels or sequels, and you it it'll still carry a full story, so to speak.

SAM: 20:30
I basically that it was like most watched Netflix premiered yet, like 90 million households or something.

MAX: 20:38
Over 90 million people already have seen it. Yeah. Um the Russo brothers will work on the script uh from now. Uh and once that's finished, it'll get green lit, one hopes. One sure with 90 million reasons. I want to be in that next one. Hemsworth will be back on board. I'm I'm looking forward to it.

SAM: 20:57
I won I want to be in that next one. I'll play I'll play Chris's son or something.

MAX: 21:01
Yeah. I've got to work on my core, get my six pack happening.

SAM: 21:05
No, I can be his like slightly slightly chubby as son or something.

MAX: 21:08
Slightly chubier, more Netflix and chill, less. Yeah.

SAM: 21:12
And somehow somehow I'm 20 and I miss something. It's possible.

MAX: 21:18
So that's that's that's I'm I'm pretty excited because I mean I knew going in, like it's not going to be heavy on you know the plot and that there were some interesting moments where it was a bit gritty and real and and certainly a bit full on every now and then. Are they getting Sam Hogribe again? Yeah, yeah. So I think that absolutely he's worked with the Russo brothers for ages with all the Avengers and um uh you know, been second unit director and in charge of all the stunts. So who who better to have in charge of an action flick? Um they were absolutely spot on to get him on board. I'm gonna have a behind the scenes update on the YouTube channel so you can see more of how the studio has evolved, especially this COVID pandemic world, getting the most out of the deck and all the rest of it. You've been listening to two unemployed actors. I'm Max. I'm Sam. Be sure to like, subscribe, listen on your favorite podcast platform, or watch us on YouTube, and you'll hear from us next week. Bye.

SAM: 22:16
See you guys