From Voiceover Demos to Streaming Wars: An Actor's Perspective| Ep 55

MAX: 00:12
Welcome back to Two Unemployed Actors. I'm Max. I'm Sam. And we have uh I want to say big show today, but oh my god, I don't think I've got the energy.

SAM: 00:19
I just let's just sit here and chill out.

MAX: 00:21
The move happened, and I'm like, although it's like one suburb to another suburb, like three suburbs away. Does that make sense?

SAM: 00:28
Yeah.

MAX: 00:29
My first problem is I can't speak properly. Um it's only like 15 minutes away, but you still gotta pack and unpack everything. And then I did the IKEA run, and oh my god, I've got cuts and bruises. It's like a wall when you build IKEA.

SAM: 00:42
I built an IKEA thing the other day, actually.

MAX: 00:44
I had to build a bed wardrobe, just a bang it, coffee table, chest of drawers. Oh, I don't know. I'm just over it. Um, and uh I guess I bit off more than I can chew going, yeah, absolutely. We can do a podcast last week when I'm in the middle of the move.

SAM: 01:01
Yes.

MAX: 01:01
Like from the back of the moving van.

SAM: 01:03
Um hence the new background.

MAX: 01:07
Hence the new yeah, that's right, yeah. We're we're thinking this couch, which is actually red but disguised grey, as you can see on YouTube, um, is a 10-year-old IKEA couch. Um, so it's time for a new one, but I'm putting that off because I probably have to build it. Uh so yes, uh, all that aside, that's why I sound a bit askew. Uh, we've got the studio now in the lounge room. Yes. Because there's space here to have a proper studio in the lounge room. Although I was just saying, I wonder what the neighbours think of the studio lights as they walk past the front door. Uh it is Newtown. It is Newtown. So yeah. Um, so moving out of the way, ready to go. I'm I'm literally still unpacking because I'm days in, and the message comes through from the agent, you've got an audition. Perfect. I'm like, okay, is it a self-tape? Yes, it's a self-tape. I have to find my self-tape wall. You know how every actor looks for a self-tape wall in their place?

SAM: 01:56
100%.

MAX: 01:57
I have to find my self-tape wall.

SAM: 01:59
That looks pretty good.

MAX: 01:60
It does.

SAM: 02:01
Yeah, I don't think you have more walls now.

MAX: 02:03
Yeah, it's true, true. From a two-bedroom tiny apartment to uh a three-bedroom house. I'm I'm I'm okay for wall space. So yeah, I I could do that. And then uh no sooner did the first come through, I get a Facebook message from the agent going, Oh, you know, casting director loves you today, you've got another one. I'm like, oh shit. So I have to actually Yeah, the same same casting and they're and they're both similar roles, clean cut, you know, 40s. So and the same headshot was used when they when she requested me for each one. So it's obviously clean cut maxi in mind. So I get up early and shave tomorrow is the memo to self.

SAM: 02:37
There we go.

MAX: 02:38
So are they both tomorrow? Uh both due by tomorrow as self-tapes. So um at least I can just go through, prepare both, and then set up the space, and then just practice a bit more. And then when I press record, my goal is just to go through both, do lots of takes of both, just lots.

SAM: 02:57
That's all you need.

MAX: 02:58
And then I've got one little SD card to plug in the computer, and then I can edit it all there to two different files, away they go. Like, you know, I haven't moved at all in the last few days.

SAM: 03:06
Very nice.

MAX: 03:07
That's the plan.

SAM: 03:09
Is it gonna go as smoothly? Who knows?

MAX: 03:11
And if it was well executed and the client loves me, I uh the plan is to get both commercials, so who knows?

SAM: 03:17
Yes, of course, always still doing voiceovers too.

MAX: 03:26
There's still quite a few. I had to do a project in the middle of the move. It was like an hour of me in front of it, being in the right headspace, and I'm literally confined between moving boxes as I try and as I try and try and do some voiceovers. Um do some voiceovers again in the right headspace, like I'm in a corporate office talking about an amazing business as they often aren't, but try to be. Um and so that's that's good. So apart from being injured by IKEA, I actually feel pretty good considering we've moved a week.

SAM: 03:55
Well, actually, I actually looked into voice voices.com a bit after our chat about it. Yep. Last podcast. Yeah, it's been two weeks. Yeah. Um and you can be a guest and be invited to auditions for free. Yep. So I'm gonna I I already started like creating a demo at home. Do that. I've been doing that.

MAX: 04:14
So fans found scripts, they provide a lot of a lot of options on voices.com for and another tip there is think about who you are and who you'd sort of compete with, and think about ads you've seen that are current, that whether they're on the radio, on the television, or even you know, e-learning scripts, corporate script, whatever the demos you want to do, because you can, you know, there's 25 categories. You can do Tories, you can do artificial intelligence. Anyway, all that aside, if you think about scripts like for me, it was more I'll tell you what way for me, it was more like you know, the the Lexus ads, you know, talking slowly and smooth and you know, business class on British Airways, all that sort of stuff.

SAM: 04:52
Yeah, listen to a lot of your stuff. I looked you up on voices.com. If you've got a spare few minutes, look me up on voices.com. Meditation chilled kind of relaxed vibe is correct.

MAX: 05:03
And then go for that rather than oh, that looks cool or this car ad looks cool, and I'll do that. Think about what sort of really suits your voice and who you'll be auditioning for. And they're the best sort of first auditions. Yeah. And then you get them nailed and you've got them individually categorized correctly, then you're likely to get invites.

SAM: 05:21
Yeah. Well, I did a little, I did a little snippet, literally like five seconds of like a uh uh it was like an example of um it must have been for like a burger chain or something. Right.

MAX: 05:30
And I was like Because it's very it's mostly I think they're based in Canada, but they're mostly obviously North American, so yeah.

SAM: 05:36
Yeah, but yeah, there's a lot of US like uh examples of voices that I do. Uh what was it?

MAX: 05:43
It was a it was a So good you've forgotten it.

SAM: 05:47
A $2,000 grill doesn't sound unreasonable. Beef, it's what's for dinner, or something like that. It was like something like that. And I just did that and it was like so funny, and I recorded it on like Logic Pro or whatever. Yeah. Um yeah, I'm just trying different things, and I guess I I did a like car ad and then put music underneath to try and make it sound legit. But there's been there's yeah, there's like it's very cool. Like I listen to yours and there's no.

MAX: 06:10
Because I think I spent 500 bucks in with the audio engineer, so professional studio setup. Yes, to get your demo. Yeah, this is what he does for a living. So I'm in the booth for as little time as possible because like you, I've done the practice, I've only had to do a few scripts two or three times. And then he sends me the file and it's all there. Yeah. And I've got the individual ones as well. Perfect. So, and with the music beds and all put together, and he does it for a living. He hears everyone's you know, voiceovers, so he knows how to sort of edit it as well.

SAM: 06:40
Yeah, right.

MAX: 06:41
So, you know, that's that's a step up in commitment again. But I like, you know, it's the best audition you do, the more chance you get in you get in the role. It's a similar thing in voices, obviously, you know, the more work you put in.

SAM: 06:51
Well, uh Grants has been successful. We've been leaving happy and been obviously excited about it.

MAX: 06:58
And emotionally intact?

SAM: 06:59
Both no longer shit. Exactly. Exactly. Both well, emotionally intact is something different, but you know.

MAX: 07:04
I'll tell you, I saw something on Facebook where he shared a clip. I haven't had a chance to watch it yet, disclaimer. But he actually You know you've made it when he feels like you're worthy enough to be shared on social.

SAM: 07:14
I was about to say he was he was um yeah, so we did a kind of like a psycho scene a little bit together. Okay, and and he was like, you know, I'm Because he can be quite menacing and intimidating.

MAX: 07:26
Yeah, that's before he says anything.

SAM: 07:27
Yeah, exactly. Um but uh he was happy with it and and really and um it makes me feel good that he wanted to post it. It builds more confidence. So he obviously thought it was good enough.

MAX: 07:37
And so Well, you've been putting the work in because like you're there all the time to work with him, so you'd want to hope you're getting better, yeah.

SAM: 07:44
Yeah, exactly, exactly. So and today Jess and I actually had an audition for an afters BA graduation short film.

MAX: 07:50
Okay.

SAM: 07:51
Uh yeah, so it it was an it's we'd be playing a couple, very toxic kind of relationship, he cheats, uh but it's about I think a lot of it's a flashback because it's about he commits suicide and she gets given like a necklace with his ashes in it and it brings back memories or whatever.

MAX: 08:10
God, but so they do that, you know, and they get the ashes ground down to like a diamond.

SAM: 08:14
Yeah, and you wear it or something. Or or you get it into a vinyl record. What? Have you heard that? You get someone's ashes in a vinyl record. How the hell what does that sound like? I was thinking, well, you play it and it's just then like haze. I mean, hell, it's hot in here. No, no, I think you can put it, make it any song you want, because it's just the grooves. Oh, I see. It's just the grooves.

MAX: 08:34
So they're the grooves. But I mean And every time you put the needle on them, you're killing them again. I like this one. What's the grooves?

SAM: 08:39
My dead grandma. It's my dead grandma. It's called dead grandma. No, um, it's really odd. I actually find that quite weird, don't you? If you wore a ring with your like Yeah.

MAX: 08:48
I mean, once you're gone, I suppose you were, but it's the people left behind who have to wear this diamond or necklace or play this vinyl record.

SAM: 08:55
When I'm gone, make me into a diamond and wear it. Like, damn it, where's that vinyl gone? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it snapped. Oh no. That's another death. Okay.

MAX: 09:04
Um so good luck with the audition for the oh, you had it today.

SAM: 09:06
Yeah, we had it today, and we're we're not gonna bring it, but we like one take wonders pretty much. Well done today as well.

MAX: 09:11
Well, they couldn't wait to get rid of the other room. Yeah. Either way, not granting.

SAM: 09:14
That's grant. Oh that no, we did it at Grant, so it was a self-taped store on the 12th. Okay. Um, and we were both very happy with it. That's good. So oh, we're crossed fingers.

MAX: 09:24
It's good because it's not like you're nervous and all the rest of it, because you work you both worked in front of Grant all the time. So it's like to get there and fire up, and if it's the last thing you do in the day, you're all primed and ready to go.

SAM: 09:35
Exactly. Uh, and also we finally have a date for the screening of not today.

MAX: 09:41
I don't believe you.

SAM: 09:42
No, I mean either. Let me guess. It's not today, it's not tomorrow, it's not the next day. Okay, when is it? It's it's the 14th of November, it should be.

MAX: 09:52
And uh anyone can log on from anywhere in the world. Oh no, don't do that. No, by the way. It's not that one. It's trying to be fair.

SAM: 09:58
So this is so this is the screening for Casting Crew on the 14th of November. But that means that very, very soon afterwards, yes, if you have the link, you can log on and view it. So that's exciting for everyone. Okay. Hopefully. Equally as exciting. Yeah, once they've seen it, they're still excited, hopefully. Yeah, yeah. So a couple things happening. Yeah, a friend of mine uh is graduating from AIM and they have to kind of write their own little musical using already existing musical numbers and stuff.

MAX: 10:34
Hang on, so an actual full-length musical.

SAM: 10:36
Not full length, it's a musical number it's shorter. No, no, no, no, no.

MAX: 10:39
From existing stuff.

SAM: 10:40
Like a mini musical.

MAX: 10:41
A mini musical. Okay, so two songs. Or lots of short six chorus things, six songs. Yeah, or something like that.

SAM: 10:47
Uh and you create your own storyline, but you use songs from different musicals.

MAX: 10:51
You know what I you know what I speaking of musicals, and I know I'm far from an expert. I watched on Netflix the documentary on David Foster. So I know everyone's like David Who. But uh, and he was on Housewives of Beverly Hills and that sort of stuff, and some people know him from that, but he's been nominated for 47 Grammys. He's 167. He's 116. When you think of the likes of the RH is not great. Well, Madonna. That's more than I want. Madonna, um, he's worked with uh well he I won't say discovered Celine Dion, but nabbed her from Quebec and helped produce her first album, all albums, really. Um the same with who's the who's the young um Frank Sinatra these days? Michael Bublet.

Speaker 2: 11:35
Michael Bublet.

MAX: 11:36
So he went to the former Canadian Prime Minister's wedding, right? Okay. And he's got, oh, come and listen to this wedding singer, he's great, you know, this is gonna be a good singer, and David just turned up. Said, look, mate, you know, the amount of times I hear that, like, come and listen to this singer, come and listen to this, like I do this for a living, okay? So he's like, No, no, you'll see. And then Michael Beeble comes out and does his little thing and then gets into it. And uh David said, I'm I'm I'm gonna take you to LA. We're gonna I'm gonna so I'm gonna help you produce your first album, I'm gonna help you do that. And that's how it sort of started again. Uh you think of the bodyguard with Whitney Houston and Kevin Costner. So Warner's uh in charge of the music, and um they s I remember I think it was Clive who was I don't know if it was CEO, creative director, whatever it was, but said to Kevin and the director, You need more, you're like you've got Whitney Houston, you need more of Whitney Houston performing in the show, yeah, in the movie, the show, so that um you can really buy into the whole she's a star thing when bad things happen in the movie to the to a storyline. So you've got why not? So then they turned to David Foster to help produce um all those songs, which we know so well. And he he found the Dolly Parton song, which is the famous I will always love you.

SAM: 12:52
Nine to five.

MAX: 12:53
Oh that was that was a great movie too, actually. Um but anyway, so yeah, like that's a great like the amount of artists he's supported and the amount of talent he's found and nurtured is amazing when you when I think musicals because I actually for me who's not really into the musical things and can't sing for I I actually enjoyed watching that.

SAM: 13:12
Okay, and it's a documentary, is it?

MAX: 13:14
It is, yeah, and he's moved on to yeah, and it David Foster, it ends with uh him going on to Broadway, which he's never done before because normally he likes to be the control freak, he's in there producing it all. Okay, do this, do that, do this, do that. Um and so to walk walk into a musical, like you're just a part of so many things. Yeah, it's uh it's amazing how he explains it. I won't try and describe it, but uh you're obviously gonna be part of a a larger team. And so he's uh working on three musicals uh on Broadway. So yeah, right now. Uh yeah.

unknown: 13:43
Wow.

MAX: 13:44
Or when that ended, the Netflix Docco, whenever that was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how it ended. So it was really interesting. And especially the the the the blurring of the Fred, don't want his to show you his favourite treatment.

SAM: 13:55
Frederick just do it there.

MAX: 14:00
Um yeah, so it's just it's interesting what goes in behind the scenes with you know just music in movies, let alone musicals in tense.

SAM: 14:10
Exactly. So yeah, so I'm I'm doing that, and because we can't do it in front of an audience, it's being filmed, so it's almost gonna be like a short film musical, musical film. Oh, okay. Which is gonna be very cool. Uh so that's exciting, and so I've been rehearsing a lot for that as well. And we've been going to the pub afterwards for like five hours.

MAX: 14:30
Warm down routine that you've got. Yeah, there's a warm-up routine for the voice, and there's a warm down.

SAM: 14:34
There's yeah, and uh there's a ruin, yes.

MAX: 14:37
Jug of beer to warm down. Yeah, exactly. Um I heard you saw a television commercial at the gym the other day.

SAM: 14:44
Oh, did I? Did I see one? Yeah.

MAX: 14:48
Yes, I uh were you in the middle of lifting some full-on weight or something, and like I came on the ad and just threw you, and it's like, oh that idiot makes distract me and I'm injured. No.

SAM: 14:57
So yes, so for everyone who for anyone who doesn't know, which is everyone except me and Max, uh I uh I was at gym and I saw I turned to the gym TV because our gym has TVs. Gym TV. Um and I just see I actually I see a red haired woman first, uh, but it was uh the insurance company that you did your ad for. I was like, could this be, could this be? As I look at the TV switch to Max. There he is. There he was.

MAX: 15:30
And you basically just scream to everyone, you've gotta watch this. Uh this is amazing. I actually laughed out loud a little bit. Okay, well, it's not quite the reaction I was going for. Okay, okay.

SAM: 15:40
That's that's my buddy.

MAX: 15:42
I was hoping you're on the treadmill and then oh my god, and then trip yourself up and no dramatic moment, bit of comedy in there, you know. Yeah, that would have been good. Why don't we add it in now for dramatic? You reenact it. Um so when okay, I can beat that because I had the Fox tell technician, so to get cable installed here in Australia, I've got to make the appointment and then you know months later they turn up. And uh he's run the cable like across the roof, and I've got to get a satellite dish and all that sort of stuff. Well, it's like a half-day project. I thought he just plugs it in. But anyway, would you pay someone to just I don't know? It's like because Fox is like, you need the technician to come, and I thought they'll replace the thing on the wall, the thing. I don't know. I'm not that technical thing, yeah. And then you can plug the thing into the thing, and then you've got a cable.

SAM: 16:24
You got the thing and you can watch the thing whenever you want to do the thing.

MAX: 16:27
Five hours later he's he's installed it. He's like, there should be a should be a signal now, and I'm looking because it goes through my amplifier, Fox Delbox to the amplifier, to then to the television, right? Okay, and I'm hearing sound. Sound comes on. I'm like, wait a minute, that's me. And then he's walked in thinking I'm talking to him. No, no, you've sp Oh, and he's looked at the screen, then I've wiggled the cord, as you do. It's the control alt delete of the amplifier world where you wiggle it and the picture came on, and there's me.

SAM: 16:54
And the the ad. Yeah. Oh, so what are the ads?

MAX: 16:59
Standing there and the foxdore guy's kind of it's like, like, I don't think he quite got it. Like he's like, what? And then he's sort of anyway, and he had a million things to do, and he's already got his day behind because I I'm high maintenance here with my five hour install. Yeah. And uh yeah, there's there's me, and I have to say I did stand there for a bit too long watching myself.

SAM: 17:17
Well, he already left, yeah. Yeah.

MAX: 17:19
Sign this, yeah, yeah, hang on, don't interrupt.

SAM: 17:21
That's that's the universe weird works in weird ways, doesn't it?

MAX: 17:24
I know. That's like my it's weird, I can hear I can hear something. Oh wait, that's me.

SAM: 17:28
That's like my music class story that I told you when my ad came on back when I was in year eight.

MAX: 17:33
Let's tell it again. Because that was several episodes ago. You should have known. Several drinks ago. Maybe I didn't even listen the first time. Who knows?

SAM: 17:39
I was in I was in my music class and we put on a YouTube video to watch. Oh, this is and then my ad came on. And I was like, why now? Why this show, why this video, why this class?

MAX: 17:49
Why me? And didn't your teacher pause it and rewind it? Pause it.

SAM: 17:52
She was like, Hey Sam, it's you.

MAX: 17:54
Just in case no one noticed.

SAM: 17:56
Just in case.

MAX: 17:56
Let's watch it.

SAM: 17:57
Just in case everyone who was saying Sam didn't notice it.

MAX: 17:60
Oh, well done. So that was good. Inspired all your friends to go out and get Foxdole or whatever the app was. It was Foxdole, wasn't it?

SAM: 18:05
What was Fox?

MAX: 18:05
Yes, it was it was Oh no, he's okay. So we're keeping Fred amused by giving him a treat which was bone with a bit of meat on, and he loved it so much he's left it behind and threw it in Sam's lap.

SAM: 18:17
Yes, it was. It was it was owned by Foxdale, but it was actually specifically for Presto. I don't know if you remember it. Yeah.

MAX: 18:23
I don't know if it was that come out and stole the show, and then suddenly everyone tried to have their own pay-per-views.

SAM: 18:30
Yeah, so Presto was like it's Fox celebration of Netflix.

MAX: 18:33
And we had we had Stan, which we still have. Um Amazon Prime. Amazon Prime, we still have. There was a couple others that's big three, right? Yeah, there was a couple others that came out, and it was just a massive grab for share, and then the ones that couldn't make it work dropped off. Because really, if you haven't got the money to buy decent content or make decent content, you can get it. Both of which is expensive, you're you're you're screwed.

SAM: 18:58
Yeah, you've kind of got like there's a obviously gonna be a bit of crossovers, but it's almost like Amazon Prime, Stan, and Netflix all have kind of different shows to each other.

MAX: 19:06
Yeah, they do because the agreements are regional, that's why people complain, oh well, I get this in Netflix in the US, I don't get it here, because regionally in the Asia Pac region, there's another and that's some and someone Fox still's got it the cable.

SAM: 19:16
Or I hate that when I see a trailer, I'm like, I'm gonna watch this, I look it up, it's like fuck it's only on the American.

MAX: 19:20
Well, I've got Stan, because I I bought it to to watch Anthony Brandon Wong's performance in The Commons, oh yeah, which was an Australian produced show. It was quite interesting, and then Amazon Prime because Kate Malvaney was in um the show with uh Al Pacino. Yes.

SAM: 19:35
As the as the assassin, the one she left um that that that play she was doing for, yeah.

MAX: 19:42
Yes, yeah, that's right. So and then I've just you know I I've got them now, and I'm like, I'll just you know, and I've got Fox Ju. I have to say, so with cable, with Netflix with Amazon and with Stan, mind you, they're tax deductible once you earn enough money as an actor to pay the tax. Uh yeah. But uh and and also going to the cinema, so I claim that on tax. All the stuff. Yeah, because that's a literal, I I actually did get it for acting, yeah. And um that's very cool. And yeah, so I claim it on tax, but uh I'll probably, if you look at percentage, I have to say Netflix is 50-50 with Foxtel with a cable. Um what makes it easy now is what Foxtel have done is have a Netflix button on the new remotes and Netflix available to stream. Anyone watching on YouTube? Which is a great play because because the more you stay within the cable infrastructure, the more likely you are to watch more cable rather than turning off the box and just using Netflix off your phone, you're less likely to go back into the box. So I think it was a great play by them. Um probably 50-50 there, and and Amazon Prime is is kicking is kicking on because I've watched The Boys, uh, which is oh funny. Oh my god, Carl Urban, amazing. Is it um? It's fantastic. It's it's superheroes, but like natural, yeah. Like, okay, because everyone's got the idealistic version of superheroes, right? We see that all the time. Good versus evil, good always wins, yada yada yada. But uh, you know, and just different coloured capes, but but this is like what would happen if superheroes were real in the world that we live in, the world that we know with social media, trolls, all the rest of it. Um, you know, because everyone has flaws. No one is pure good or pure bad. No, everyone has flaws. Yeah. And this really exposes flaws. Yeah, so really well-written characters, very nice. And interesting, you know, plot that carries you through lots of little story arcs. I'm up to like I blitzed season one, season two now, every Friday it drops. So I'm I'm watching that's what I'm watching at the moment. I'm really, really enjoying it.

SAM: 21:45
I tried to go to gold class the other day, it's not half the price anymore. It's 43 bucks.

MAX: 21:50
Oh, you know why? It's gone back to school holidays now.

SAM: 21:53
So once school's back?

MAX: 21:55
So I don't know, but I think there was a period there where it was dead quiet and nobody knew they'd restarted. Really? So they're like half price everything, come on in.

Speaker 2: 22:03
Yeah.

MAX: 22:03
And then school holidays started and it's you know certainly a right of passage for most families to go during school holes. I remember my mum used to give me like a book, my brother and I. The rule was I had to take him, but uh so it had to be, you know, less R-rated. Older wait an older brother younger brother, three years. So I'd take him to the and it's not cool, you know, taking a three year old three year younger brother to Chatston shopping centre in Melbourne to go see the movies when you know he's he's kind of Have you only got one sibling? Yeah, that's enough.

SAM: 22:30
I'm the oldest too. That's very good. It is.

MAX: 22:31
I know, we're older and wiser. Um you know, the thing is uh we so we used to get a book every school holidays, and we get a you know, we'd be able to see like five movies or something or six movies, you know, because you get a discount if you buy a book of tickets and so we can go and yeah, that was our my mum used to have something like that.

SAM: 22:49
Yeah.

MAX: 22:49
It helped me to to love the movies even more. Yeah, it's of course the only problem was a negotiation of what to see.

SAM: 22:56
Oh, you guys had different tastes.

MAX: 22:58
It helped that we were both like teenage boys, so it's it's which superhero movie should we see or something like it's not too you know should we look at that new French rom com? No, that's not so you know it's alright. We've we survived.

SAM: 23:12
That's good.

MAX: 23:13
So hopefully, I'm looking forward to in the next 48 hours finishing unpacking. Yes, two auditions done, a couple of voiceover jobs, and lots of rest of relaxation.

SAM: 23:23
Yes, make sure to relax.

MAX: 23:26
Which is good. So I'm uh that'll that'll be happy and then I'll be more centred. Then next week I've got to pick up the script again and keep working on that script for the play, which is now moved. So um January lipstick. Still January. So I've I I think rehearsals are gonna start later this month, actually. Yeah, right. I'd like to go in knowing half of what I'm supposed to be doing, you know. Thanks, Fred, but I'm hungry. I've I've eaten.

SAM: 23:49
Well, next time we'll have the two unemployed actors light box up here. Yeah, we'll do that.

MAX: 23:54
It's a basic progression, you know, and then I'll buy a real couch that a real couch.

SAM: 23:58
This is cardboard couch.

MAX: 24:00
Well, I built this one 11 years ago from IKEA, and the covers faded, which is why I've got this sheet covering it for those on YouTube. You get the five years.

SAM: 24:09
I was nine eleven years ago.

MAX: 24:11
That's enough. That's enough for that. That's enough for that. I couldn't build anything except Lakeland. Which means you're probably better at building it than I was. You're listening to Unemployed Actors, I'm Max. I'm Sam. This is Fred, and we'll be back next week. Bye. See ya. Two unemployed actors. Fred's just chomping every time he moves, every time his head butts it it you can hear the looks a bit weird on camera.

SAM: 24:36
Frederick, get off my crotch.

MAX: 24:41
Thanks for picking that up, Chris.

SAM: 24:44
Now we know what the studio looks for.

MAX: 24:51
Boom boom. Okay. I'm not a teenager anymore. So you can't say that something saying something about