Audition Twists, Real Guns on Set, & Tom Cruise Set Drama! | Ep 61

MAX: 00:12
Welcome back to Two Unemployed Actors. I'm Max. I am Sam. And we have a great show today. We're going to talk about uh how my play's going. Rehearsals. Yes, Sam's auditioning, busy auditioning, another uh corporate acting gig and some stories from that. So, first up, I have to say I've got a bit of a problem with this play because I always said, as it's been going thanks to COVID for like a year now, um that in rehearsals it's not so much getting off book, it's the blocking. Like my character, there's no there's even getting off book, like there's no conversation, there's no progress in in the script written in the book. No, it's it's basically I'm in door two at page 13 and then out door four. You know, I walk in the front door, out of the bathroom, I say three lines, then I come in the the bathroom, I have a conversation, then I'm out the front door, and then I'm at a certain so anyway.

Speaker 1: 01:06
Nice.

MAX: 01:07
It's yeah. So I'm all over the place, literally, uh, my character and me in my rehearsals. So I've got this unique way of developed, right? I've got a because I'm I know all the lines, okay. So that's that's not that's not the hard part. I've got the lines down, and even how I'm going to deliver, because we've sort of gone through the play now in various rehearsals. So I've had the notes on what to do and probably what not to do and what's max, stop doing that. Uh all that sort of stuff. So the feedback's be great. Um, it's basically a page where I've got two or three of the of the lead-in lines, so the prompts for me to know, and then I've got like um front door uh yell or something, and then I know I'm supposed to knock and yell, and then that takes me into the lines I need. I know where I'm going from that moment. So they're like little segments, little mini segments, like little mini skits is the way I'm looking at it. I don't know why doing that, but that's mini. So yeah, so the issue, so the issue for me is just making sure I can practice the physicality of it. Now we had a we had a um rehearsal booked for Sunday just past, and it was going to be like a couple at least of full run throughs. Okay. With the whole cast. Uh 2 30 late pm, like a decent one. And I'm so looking forward to it because I actually need to just practice with people. With people, yeah. Script is down, I'm fine. I've got a little page of prompts just to So you haven't been in with people yet, like for a while. Yeah, uh twice a week, but but I I need to do a full run-through of notes at the end, you know what I mean? So you can because it's it's so much about the timing, yeah. And the delivery's fast, and then it's like a beat, beat, beat, something's happening, and then I've got to knock, open the door, run in and say whatever it is. So I've just got to get that that flow down and the timing right. Yeah, right. Um, because it's so much in the physicality of it, but with the bloody COVID, its resurgence in part of Sydney has shut that down. So we didn't we weren't able to to go through that on Sunday. So I'm sort of I've got my imaginary thanks to my dining room not having a dining table in it yet, I'm actually able to set up a rehearsal space with the four doors, and I can, you know, so I'm imaginary my imaginary my I can't talk to that. No, my imagination doesn't have to kick in too far. I I I could sort of got it all sort of spaced out and organized. Okay. And I'm literally standing at door number three where I'm supposed to be and walking to door number like I'm actually trying to make it as physical as possible so that I can get it right. But of course, nothing's as good as having the whole cast and doing an actual full run through. When are you just coming? When's it? February. It's weeks away.

SAM: 03:44
Yeah, a long time.

MAX: 03:45
Like January's next week.

SAM: 03:47
I think you've been rehearsing for this longer than I have.

MAX: 03:50
I've been sitting on the script since uh January. Yeah. And I mean, the the last cast in the callback was December last year. Oh my god. For the April, May was going to be the festival. You're kind of done with it. So like I've been saying, I put the script down, didn't even look at it. Yeah. Because I want so many, so many elements of physical, and I knew that I want it to sort of be fresh.

Speaker 1: 04:15
Okay.

MAX: 04:15
And discover moments. Like I'm still I've got certain ways of doing things at certain moments, but then in a rehearsal, I'll experiment a bit, which is great, that's what rehearsals are for, and find out there's a better way to do it. Sure. So um it's still shaping itself. And four weeks away from you know, showtime, I probably want to have it a bit more shaped.

Speaker 3: 04:37
Yeah, yeah, 100%.

MAX: 04:38
But the bloody COVID, anyway, and also I was gonna see a movie called The Dry, which is in Australian cinemas January. Uh it's an Australian movie, a detective. Okay. Um, heading to the Outback, investigating a crime. I've tried to avoid any more plot points because I actually will enjoy this. Uh Robert Connolly is the director, and I saw Barlebo. Barlebo was another Australian movie produced by um oh my god. What's it? Anthony Anthony Anthony Lapalia. There we go. We got it. Uh, who the Americans will know from all these medical and detective shows. Yeah, right. Um and detective shows, I think. Yeah, Anthony Palio. Uh and a few movies in the States. He's doing alright. He's doing it. He's doing good on him. It took him seven years to produce Barabo, yeah. Seven. And he 17 years no, seven to produce Barbo. Um, and it was a fantastic movie. So Robert Connolly is the director. Uh, and on Saturday, the Eric was gonna be there. Uh Robert Connolly, the director, was going to be there, and also the author, because it's based on a book by Jane Harper.

SAM: 05:48
Very cool.

MAX: 05:49
Um, and it was gonna be so good, but then it got canned because they were being responsible and not, you know, helping everyone spread. Annoying, but anyway, bloody virus, we're still not over yet. Yeah. Having said that, um, auditions, talk me through your auditions.

SAM: 06:05
Yeah, so uh yesterday, no, day before yesterday, I came across uh a casting call on Facebook. Okay. Uh, you know, shared through the classic acting pages and oh you've got to be part of those networks. Oh, 100%. Like m a lot of the stuff keeps coming up there and nowhere else. Anyway, uh so it's with it was with Nathan Lloyd casting. Don't know if you've heard of it. No, I haven't.

MAX: 06:26
Is are they based in Sydney?

SAM: 06:28
I think so. They cast Wentworth and stuff. Oh, okay. So quite uh and I was casting call for a series, I I think it's uh based around BMXing and stuff, okay. Uh being shot in Alice Springs and Adelaide area uh next year, I think starts in March. Um and they were looking for 14 to 17 year old boys and boys and girls. Uh and I my look, so I'm 21, but my look I say is 16 to 23.

MAX: 06:58
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can get away with that.

SAM: 06:59
Yeah, and especially when I shave.

MAX: 07:01
Um you can look a lot younger. Yeah, that helps.

SAM: 07:04
But um, and I'm sure that's what they were looking for. Fred, leave Sam alone. I'm your number one fan, is this final. You know, I'm sure that's what they were looking for. Uh kind of young looking, not necessarily that's your age. Like I spoke about.

MAX: 07:13
We s but yeah, because if it was the right fit, you wouldn't have been able to apply.

SAM: 07:16
No. Also, I can't get into the right fit. I'm like, I forgot I forgot my password.

MAX: 07:20
Okay.

SAM: 07:20
Buddy.

MAX: 07:21
Frederick, no. You'd be a good boy.

SAM: 07:24
I was like, I forgot my password.

MAX: 07:27
Oh, well, that's not gonna help.

SAM: 07:28
No, and I've I've tried every single password that I do.

MAX: 07:31
You have to email them.

SAM: 07:32
I said I forgot my password. They said I've sent you an email to reset. I haven't got an email. I did it like five times.

MAX: 07:37
Okay, not the best.

SAM: 07:37
Yeah, I don't know what's going on. Anyway, but yes.

MAX: 07:39
Back to you BMXing.

SAM: 07:40
Yeah, so it was it's it was a very cool script. I think it's ABC and uh and streaming services. 10 30 seconds uh 10 30 second episodes, 10 30 minute episodes. Right. Um, so it'd be cool. Um Yeah, so I I got up yesterday, I was like, Jess, you're gonna read for me. Um and took the photos, did the chat to camera, and did the the scene that they wanted and sent it through. So awesome. Uh I did the best I could. But yeah, so I got a camera for my birthday and then you have no idea. I mean you probably do, but like it just helps with the quality of your self tapes and it works better, which means you sound better and seem better and all this stuff.

MAX: 08:17
I've always said that if when you can afford to to graduate from your your phone, and look, I I still use my phone sometimes, but if I have to do something quick. Um especially if you have a big camera on your phone as well. It helps. That's true. Um, but if you've if you've got the opportunity to get something that's built for purpose, yeah, it's good. Um it's even better.

SAM: 08:35
Yeah, so I did that yesterday, sent it off. Um and then today, just before podcast, I had an audition for Through Star Now for a short film, Paid, which is a bonus. Great. Uh and it's a it's it reminded me of your interrogation film because it's an interrogation and it's just two guys in an interrogation room the whole time. Uh it's the detective, and the character that I would be playing, his name's Julian Tolski. He's a magician.

unknown: 09:00
Okay.

SAM: 09:01
Um, and it's all about it's just about did he want to be there? Was he like trying to get away from the floor? Yeah, he's quite charming and sneaky and it there's a fight moment at the end, I don't want to reveal too much, and then there's so Oh my god, it's like a feature length the interrogation. Yeah, it's very now you see me. You know the film number.

MAX: 09:22
Oh yes, yes, I know that one. So there's some twists and turns.

SAM: 09:25
Yeah, so I auditioned for that today and I hope it went well. You know, yeah, I I I I heard the other day, and I agree, that like if you walk out of the audition room going like, Oh, I could have done this, I could have done that, I could have done that, that's good. Yeah. That means you you've you know. You're fired up, you're passionate, you really enjoy it. You know that you can do better and all this stuff, and that's always important. If you're like n nail it, like sometimes that isn't necessarily the key. It sounds like a fun part. It yeah, the script is very fun. Yeah, the script's very fun and i it's very playful and and I hope Yeah. So I hope I hope I hear from them. Because I the so the callback's this afternoon. Okay. So very, very fast turnover. They're not mucking around, are they? Exactly, exactly. And it's because shooting would be Sunday to Tuesday.

MAX: 10:10
Oh, next week.

SAM: 10:11
Yeah. So they're very quick. I don't know why what what's up, but um I don't think it's student. It's I don't think it's a student film. They didn't advertise it at least like that.

Speaker 1: 10:19
Okay.

SAM: 10:19
Uh but I was I was excited to read the um description of this character. He's he that's really they say, you know, he to he talks his fast-paced, his pa He talks really fast. I was very excited to speak uh to read about his description uh because it was saying that his the way he talks, his tempo is like Jesse Eisenberg. Right, okay. You know how Jesse Eisenberg talks, but he's got like the charm of Colin Farrell or whatever. So it's very cool, and it said a youthful look, so I'm glad that I Yeah, yeah, shave that day.

MAX: 10:47
Yeah. Um but no, that's that sounds good. That's a good one. Well, I could I could look at you quite a bit. We're talking about a quick turnaround. That's massive.

SAM: 10:55
Very quick. But yeah, so that's what I've been up to, auditioning and stuff. And and we did another read-through last night for the film that I'm in uh in Newcastle. Uh so that's going ahead. Um that's good.

MAX: 11:06
So you've got projects locked for the next year, ready to kick off 2021.

SAM: 11:10
I'm so excited. It's gonna be great. Great start to the year. Great start of the year. It's always busy around this time, isn't it?

MAX: 11:14
It's funny, isn't it? I know. I mean, I feel like it's been busier for me, particularly in the corporate stuff. Um, everyone races to get stuff done before end of year. Uh there was one job I'm booked on which because it was raining in in Sydney um was it yesterday, uh, they were gonna shoot like a piece to camera, but in Courage Works, which is a huge um they use it use it as a soundstage, but it's not a sound stage, it's by no means soundproof. A lot of art shows there, yeah, and and exhibitions and things. And I think I think the roof is like tin in pa in places. So basically, if you're doing a piece to camera and you're talking to camera, you will get drowned out. So they're like rain, storms, no goods. We'll bump it back a week. I'm like, guys, I'm not here that Monday, Tuesday. It's like I gave myself two days off. Um, so they pushed it back till mid-January. Um, hopefully the weather holds out. But uh that's a that's a nice fat corporate gig. And they were pushing to get that done before end of year just to work out. Uh it's an induction video um to talk to new recruits, new recruits, new employees in a security company, a national security company. Oh, very cool. Yes, so um there's heaps of dialogue.

SAM: 12:28
Star Now?

MAX: 12:28
I can't remember, mate. I can't remember.

SAM: 12:30
So many.

MAX: 12:31
I I think I think it was Star. It was through the agent. I I think it was Star Now. Um the right fit's been give me a bit here and there, but Star Now has been pretty good as always. But I think no, look, I'm looking forward to it. It's just it's just trying to manage the timings this time. You know, I've got even re clients coming back, uh, repeat clients for voiceover going, oh, can we just get this pickup done, this revision, or this script done before Christmas? And it's like, but that's the end of the week. Yeah, yeah. I literally got off the mic this morning for doing another uh pickup for a regular, so like I'm trying to I'm I'm basically I've given myself two days off. Yep. In addition to Saturday and Sunday this week. So um it should be good, it should be good fun. But look, it's great to be busy, it's a wonderful problem to have. You know, it's all paid work and um it's all falling into place. Speaking of which, I did finish a corporate job. Remember, we we talked about the wine gig, this regular wine gig. Yep. Um, and that's nothing like talking about a project you're passionate about, and certainly the the wine was lovely. Oh yes, it never never disappoints. Um, so what was interesting this time, this is uh 2.0, so different um person playing The Visitor. Okay. Uh slimmed it all down. We're talking about just one particular wine from one particular region, working with a professional production company and uh a great cameraman who usually works at ESPN, so you know, following my wine glass to my mouth is probably the slowest thing he's filmed for a long time.

SAM: 13:59
Um it depends on how thirsty you are.

MAX: 14:01
Yeah, well, I did have to drive home. But uh it was good, it was good shit. There was one issue. I mean, I didn't get to see the script until the that night, but fine, we're using auto queue, I can go through it, cold read, whatever. But um what was interesting was they were setting up the auto cue, and I could instantly see they hadn't set up an auto cue before with the with that perspective camera, and I'm like, guys, you you need the black hood that comes over the top because then that stops the reflections from you know uh ruining the shot. And uh and making sure I can actually read it too. So they found that they've tried to hook that up, it wouldn't work anyway. Long story short, I've ended up looking to my left and reading the auto cue like a like paragraph, memorizing that full paragraph, then looking to the camera to deliver the the paragraph.

Speaker 1: 14:50
Wow.

MAX: 14:52
So there were moments when I'd I and I'd read my process like under pressure, under the pump, everyone's standing there, let's get this done. I've had this is the first time I'm reading the script, it's up there on the auto cue. Read through the whole paragraph, okay. I've just gotta give me give me a few more minutes, and I'm like I'm telling them, you're gonna have to give me a few minutes. I'm just gonna read it out loud a few times until I get it, and then let's roll. Uh no worries. So then I'd read it out loud. And as I'm reading out loud, oh that word sounds a bit why don't we replace that word with this word? And I'm just trying to remember the I'm just talking out loud because it's my process, yeah. I'm reading it out loud, read out, read aloud. I'll finally get there, and then okay, let's go, and then I might mess up a bit and we go back and then you know finally get there. Like it's a bit obviously it's not as streamlined as before. And no. Um, the same people, uh different production company.

SAM: 15:41
Uh okay.

MAX: 15:41
Uh, but you know, anyway, I I got there. It was very different. I mean, at the end of the day, it's like me holding the script and try to memorize it, and then like I did at MITER 10, uh, where you know it was literally written minutes before uh memorise it. Okay, let's go, you know, but at least then everybody knew. So here we were for three and a half hours, probably could have chopped maybe half an hour, 45 minutes off was me remembering lines going over and over and over. But look, they were very understanding, it was fine, and it was a smooth shoot. And look, it was great working with the team, and it's lovely when you can combine your work with the passion, like wine. Wine, yeah, or like the car sales one driving a car. Um perfect. So look, I can't complain. It was good fun, and it's gonna turn into regular gigs, so even better. Um, and hopefully we can work out the auto cute. I'd rather spend 15 minutes fuffing around with it than you know, and I hadn't seen the script, so I thought it was only a few short bits, but no, it was there was a lot of dialogue. Oh yeah. So anyway, we got there without me looking too uh old and senile. What was that word again? Senile. Oh wait, oh no, I can't read. Can you increase the font on the auto cute? Anyway, fun times to me. Nice. So it's good. Did you did you hear speaking of and we did mention the COVID? I know I'm trying not to this year. I think we've done well actually throughout the year, not mentioning the COVID as well. Early days we mentioned it probably every episode. Yeah, but like we I think we've done pretty well. But uh Tom Cruise and his spray to the crew. Did you hear that? Yeah, yeah, I did actually. I think everyone did, especially in the industry. Um, I can relate to the guy like seriously. First of all, a lot of the money is his. They've shut down before. Yep. They're trying to do episode seven and eight or whatever it is, I can't remember what they're up to, 20 and 29. Um they're shooting two back to back, which always takes longer and is more arduous. And they just had 12 infected in in Italy when they're on set there. So, like, and then so from the crew or just from uh the crew. Oh wow. So when they had to isolate and again, you know, rejig the. I mean, if it's not hard enough with a huge tent bowl, $100 million blockbuster movie to plan the next day or the day after, imagine having Yeah shit. Oh my god, the amount of moving parts. And I think I think I read somewhere, correct me if I'm wrong, uh, about $300,000 a day every time it's parked. Just the ongoing costs. $300,000 a day. $300,000 US a day.

Speaker 3: 18:12
If it if they don't cheap.

MAX: 18:13
As they're paused, yes. Yeah, I heard that as well. So not cheap. So I can sort of relate to the guy like when he saw people breaking down, what is I know it's foreign to us still, but like it's work, the guidelines are there, um you're living and breathing it while you're making the production, like I'm it's just and of course you're gonna make the mistake in front of the guy who's paying for it and the lead actor Tom Cruise. But like, you know, what are the odds, you know?

SAM: 18:39
I've seen behind the scenes of Tom Cruise, you know, uh in Mission Impossible and stuff, like he he kind of almost directs a lot as well.

MAX: 18:47
Because if he's the ma he's executive producer and also the lead, he's gonna take a look at the Well there were there were stunts where um, like let's involve a helicopter sequence that hasn't been filmed before and make it really dramatic. This is the last one. Yeah, uh, so he learned to fly. And specifically, after learning to fly basic controls of a helicopter, learning to fly to perform that particular stunt, so he could be in the in the cockpit on his own, yeah, clearly shown by the camera, and instead of doing cutaways, you can actually be up close the whole si s segment of the stunt to see that it's really him flying, yeah, such as the commitment. I mean, this is the stuff you can do, but then again, the risk reward. Remember how the one before that he broke his ankle heading into a doing one of his own stunts? There's a balance between I'm I've always I've said before I'm happy to hand over to stunt people who are great at doing a a stunt that's dangerous over and over again.

Speaker 3: 19:45
Yeah.

MAX: 19:45
Uh making it as safe as possible, doing it over and over again and making it look really good on camera, as opposed to me screaming like a baby with a bit of pea coming out. Yeah. Actually, you know, making it look really good.

SAM: 19:55
Well, I actually want to do a stunt course. I've been looking online for them. I think it would be good to have it under your belt anyway.

MAX: 19:59
I've done a couple, and I have to say, um the short courses, not the full, because I think, look, again, enough to know when to put your hand up and go, hang on a minute. Yeah. Let's call in the experts. Things like um firearms. And even if it's uh not a firearm, but it looks like a firearm in Australia, it's classed as a firearm. Yeah. And if you're the mutt that's standing there holding it, the police turn up, they're gonna be asking you what's going on.

Speaker 3: 20:24
Yeah.

MAX: 20:25
So who's done the paperwork? Yeah. Can I see the paperwork? Yeah. Um, what sort of firearm is it? Is it um a rubber mould? Is it um one that can fire air pellets? Is it uh so you can check if it's unloaded, obviously, when you hand handle it. Is it a real gun? Um, all sorts of questions to ask, which involve all sorts of paperwork and armor, etc. If you're turning up and someone's just throwing something at you, no. In Victoria, they told a uh they told me a story of In Victoria, uh, small film, limited budget, uh, actors there, ready to go, rocking and rolling. Um, gunshots are uh are being heard, um, that blanks, please, that weren't that silly. Um, but then someone called in, because this day and age, too, especially in a country where you're not surrounded by weapons all the time, like in Australia, like if people walking down the street over and over again with a firearm, it's gonna draw attention, especially if you're not wearing a uniform. Yeah. So someone called the police who turned up and they just arrested the actor because the producers put their hand up and he's holding the gun. Oh well. So he's he got arrested. That's shit and taken the it is a bit producers. It is correct.

SAM: 21:30
Surely legally, it's not actually the actor's.

MAX: 21:32
Well, let's get stuck into that legal talk and blah blah blah blah. But I mean, at the end of the day, make sure you understand what you're getting. And things like if you don't understand the stunt, um, can you show me is the big thing. Can you show me? Uh the stunt on the last course, the stunty who who was stunt coordinator working with Shaley's thrawn and Mad Max, Fury Road. Um, that'd often be like, This is it, this is going to be a weapon, this this gun looks the same. As all the other guns she's been holding, but it's taken off her in character. The other character takes it off her and fires at her head or near her head with it. Um, so that the gu that particular model of the gun is designed to push air through that can make it look like the shots just happened so that her hair can wisp up. Um, things that'd be really complicated in CGI. Yeah, right. Um, and she's like, Great, but you know, can you show me? Because before you point a gun near my head, I'd like to see you do it. And if you say all no, then there's no way I'm doing it. So there he was, pointing it by his head, and you could see the air moving out. It's great. Okay, now I understand how it's gonna work, how I understand how the shot's gonna work, let's let's let's do it. So, how to make things safer, um, the boring bureaucracy around it, like getting approval um to do certain things and what to ask for.

SAM: 22:46
Yeah, exactly.

MAX: 22:47
And fighting, like how close you're allowed to get, that sort of thing. Because it's different to sort of stage fighting in a way. But there's so many more courses you can do.

SAM: 22:54
Yeah. Well, we had we had I had to have a real gun in not today. Right. And we had an armorer there.

MAX: 22:60
Yeah, oh that great. Um that tends to say all the paperwork's been done, all that eyes are dotted and T squared.

SAM: 23:08
And he so he was showing me here it's empty. Yep. Look, there's nothing happening, click, click, click, it's safety's on, all that stuff. Um but then he had to fire a shot at a tree stump so we could get the audio.

MAX: 23:18
Right.

SAM: 23:19
Um so yeah, so there was a lot of that. But we were in um Bury.

MAX: 23:24
Right.

SAM: 23:24
So there's a lot of probably hunt like hunting and and going to Farms, etc. Stuff like that.

MAX: 23:29
You still have to get council approval. Yeah, they definitely probably got that, but there probably wasn't any neighbours going, hey there there was a case uh not that long ago, actually a couple of years, of a music video being filmed in Brisbane, and uh unfortunately a performer was was shot and killed. Uh they died later on uh of their injuries because the what I found out on the stunt course is when you're firing a blank, a blank requires more gunpowder than a normal bullet.

Speaker 1: 23:56
Right.

MAX: 23:57
And and you need to, after firing a blank, you need to be able to clear the gun and look through the barrel to make sure there's no bits of metal left from that blank that's just been fired.

SAM: 24:08
Yeah.

MAX: 24:08
Because the next one coming has a lot of gunpowder behind it, and you end up with shrapnel being projected to some which is what happened. The other thing is um when you're very close to someone, you don't point at them. No. You when you're very close to someone, you can cheat it quite easily on camera, uh, which is an extra step in safety should that happen. So instead of a few safety things that didn't.

SAM: 24:33
So in films where you're you're shooting multiple blanks.

MAX: 24:37
Yeah, yeah. Sometimes you're not. Look at John Wick. How many bullets do you think were fired in John Wick?

SAM: 24:42
Well, real ones, none.

MAX: 24:44
One.

SAM: 24:44
One real one.

MAX: 24:45
Out of all of that, just one.

SAM: 24:46
Well, for what scene?

MAX: 24:47
Uh where there's where there's a lot of mirrors. Um, because they just you I mean it's just impossible to calculate all the different ways to show what's happened in CGI lands that actually had to fire a real bullet, and that was clear the set, clear everyone, uh the start guy's there, the armor's there with the head muffs on ready firing the bullet, cameras already, you know, that's it. Minimal round.

SAM: 25:10
But then with with all the you know.

MAX: 25:11
But but that's all that because there's there's footage of of Keanu doing uh uh training with you know the shotguns and the because as an actor you've got to know how to react. Yeah, you can't just hold it and point and shoot because that's gonna look like you're playing with the biggest.

SAM: 25:25
But with all the when when he's you know shooting heaps, when you see all the guns shooting multiple rounds, all that's in the post.

MAX: 25:30
Yeah, so it's just like click the the flames, the sounds, the everything it's all. I know the flames were yeah, okay, so it's just clicking. Because it's a movie set, it won't make a sound. Yeah. It's quiet.

SAM: 25:40
No. Sometimes you hear little ones and those could be blanks, but you're right with the Yeah.

MAX: 25:44
So they didn't they didn't use that all they did was one bullet. Everything was everything was CGI. Yeah. So you don't, you know, you don't need to take certain risks, but when you do, you should have someone there who's responsible specifically for those risks. Yeah. You should be able to see, understand, ask questions and say no. Yeah. And feel safe to do so. And there are steps even after that, like um checking that it's clear. Yeah. Checking it's clear after you fired a blank. Yeah. When you're close to someone firing offset to try and avoid that. Yeah. So if anything, I think every actor should at least do like an intro to stunt or something.

SAM: 26:23
Yeah.

MAX: 26:24
Just so that you because you don't know what you don't know.

SAM: 26:26
Well, I'm waiting on hearing back from this because that they said like an acting action course coming soon. And I've been looking at it. Like I don't want to like I can do just the stunts, but I reckon this will include a lot of it in one.

MAX: 26:36
Action acting uh around the corner here, actually, in in some just past some Peters, I think. I did their two-day course. They had a special forces instructor teaching us what they would normally do like years ago, because there's no way you're gonna learn the current stuff, and two uh stunt coordinators. That's where I met the stunt coordinator for Mad Max Fury Road Action Acting. And they uh do everything from what I did, like a course for actors. Yeah, and that particular one was focused on using small arms and rifles um in a group, so learning how to move around safely uh in a group and clear a room as an example, uh, so that you know the the fundamentals so that you can turn up on set and you can have a half an idea of what you've got to do and fighting before blocking. Uh no, the course I did prior to that with a different company was all about uh hand-to-hand combat without weapons. So I did I've done martial arts. I did a lot of martial arts when I was a kid. Yeah. And so I'm used to punching through people rather than stopping just before. So it's quite interesting. Um and even as a stunt performer, you don't get sort of close than you know, you get you shouldn't get closer than like six inches of something. Uh so um yeah, so but with the discipline from that, it it was easy when they did a disciplined training course and slowly got you up to speed to the point where you could and uh what I learned was most important, if not more important, than throwing the punches or the hits, is taking them, how to react appropriately. Yeah, okay. Um and and how the difference do you find it hard not to make sounds when you're I know apparently the sound guys at when they film Rocky could hear Stallone going all the time. Yeah. Uh there's a few stories about that. Yeah. And it's like uh who else told that? One of the one of the actors from Star Wars, they kept making the zh sound.

SAM: 28:24
Oh, that's so stupid. It's kind of funny. How can you not help it?

MAX: 28:28
So yeah, so really interesting stuff. Really interesting stuff. Awesome. And for our 60th episode, which was our last episode, to celebrate, we have stickers. Yeah. If you want one, because they're awesome in limited edition, Fred wants one.

SAM: 28:42
If you guys watching on YouTube, I'm holding it up.

MAX: 28:46
Send us an email, contact at twounemployedactors.com. I'll put them on the socials as well, and I'll send you one. Or two if you're lucky. You've been listening to two unemployed actors, Simon X. I'm Sam. And uh Merry Christmas. Oh my goodness. You'll hear us. You'll hear us again next year. Happy New Year's to you later. Bye.